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4. Iunie 2017, 08:46:42
Pedro Martínez 
Subiectul: Re: S-B wrongly calculated
Marshmud: They are both tie-breakers. The rule below in SE tournaments, and S-B in regular tourneys. In other words, Thom27 is correct in his original post.

3. Iunie 2017, 23:08:43
Marshmud 
Subiectul: Re: S-B wrongly calculated
Pedro Martínez: Yes my friend but is that not a BK rule and have nothing to do with the S-B?

3. Iunie 2017, 16:02:02
Pedro Martínez 
Subiectul: Re: S-B wrongly calculated
Marshmud: This only applies to "single elimination" tournaments.

"Warning! If a normal game ends as a draw, the player with lower BKR would advance to the next round (in case of equal BKRs, the one who didn't start the game - the black player in most games). If you want to avoid such situations, create this tournament with 1 win matches instead."

3. Iunie 2017, 15:06:32
Thom27 
Subiectul: Re: S-B wrongly calculated
Marshmud: I don't find a rule anywhere that in case of equal ponts and S-B, the rating decides. But here I found an example of a shared victory in this case. So it seems to be a bug or glitch.

Maybe fencer will find time to fix it.

2. Iunie 2017, 18:54:11
Marshmud 
Subiectul: Re: S-B wrongly calculated
Thom27: After further investigation I stand behind my original statement. In fact you should of won that tournament.

2. Iunie 2017, 01:55:23
Marshmud 
Subiectul: Re: S-B wrongly calculated
coan.net: I thought the Sonneborn-Berger system is used to specify an order of players with the same number of points and is based on a theory that points earned with a stronger opponent are more valuable than with a weaker one. So there should be no tie unless both players have the same BKR.

2. Iunie 2017, 01:42:43
Marshmud 
Subiectul: Re: S-B wrongly calculated
coan.net: The actual S-B total sum has been incorrect for some time but the order has been correct. I was explained in the past that if a tie the lower rated player wins. However I think it was in a prize tournament I ran and fencer paid it out that way. Your correct there is a bug .I've noticed the sum of the S-B total has been incorrect in many of the tournaments I've been in

2. Iunie 2017, 01:25:36
coan.net 
Subiectul: Re: S-B wrongly calculated
Marshmud: Actually it does look like a bug, the S-B should be 33 for both. Ratings don't matter for the S-B.

S-B is just you add the points for each win they have.

Each players had 1 win against a player that had 9 points.(x1 = 9 points)
Each player had 2 wins against a player that had 6 points (x2 = 12 points)
Each player had 2 wins against a player that had 4 points (x2 = 8 points)
Each player had 2 wins against a player that had 0 points (x2 = 0 points)
Each player had 2 wins against a player that had 2 points (x2 = 4 points)

So each player should have ended up with a 33 S-B rating.

1. Iunie 2017, 19:26:53
Marshmud 
Subiectul: Re: S-B wrongly calculated
Thom27: Not necessary. If tosty had a lower bkr when this tournament started (feb 2012) and since you two split your match the player with the lower bkr wins. Both of you also won all your other matches.

1. Iunie 2017, 19:05:26
Carnie 
"Smokin cigarettes and watchin' Captain Kang...Kang a roo. Now don't tell me ...I've nothin' to do."

1. Iunie 2017, 17:54:38
crosseyed 
Subiectul: Re:
Mélusine: Good for you.

1. Iunie 2017, 16:45:18
Carnie 
Subiectul: Re:
Mélusine: I'll renew if Brainking stays. I'm an optomist unless I'm told by the owner he's closing. :)

1. Iunie 2017, 14:32:49
Thom27 
Subiectul: S-B wrongly calculated
In this tournament table the S-B values are wrong. Me and tolsty2002 should have the same value, since we have the same match results.

1. Iunie 2017, 00:40:49
Mélusine 
I don't like slow players but they don't cheat, they just play differently. I'm an optimist, I renewed my subscription.

30. Mai 2017, 17:29:15
Carnie 
Subiectul: Re:
crosseyed: :/ so it must be my phone. It takes all kinds of kinds.

30. Mai 2017, 17:00:05
crosseyed 
Subiectul: Re:
Carnie: Never mind.

30. Mai 2017, 14:31:28
Carnie 
Subiectul: Re:
crosseyed: I'll have to renew membie to send you a real smile lol.

30. Mai 2017, 14:25:37
crosseyed 
Subiectul: Re:
Carnie:

30. Mai 2017, 14:24:36
Carnie 
Subiectul: Re:
crosseyed: ok :)

30. Mai 2017, 14:09:40
crosseyed 
Subiectul: Re:
Carnie: Keep playing here as like others have stated there is no definite ending to Brainking in the near future.

30. Mai 2017, 13:42:17
Carnie 
Subiectul: Re:
furbster: True. Just didn't like having more losses than wins lol. It's 10 matches. I'll let it sit.

30. Mai 2017, 13:38:03
furbster 
Subiectul: Re:
Carnie: If you're playing robtoo, the game is almost certainly unrated anyway, so even if you resign it's not gonna cost you any rating points.

30. Mai 2017, 13:13:54
Aganju 
Subiectul: Re:
Modificat de Aganju (30. Mai 2017, 13:15:07)
Carnie: you have some contradicting asumptions here...

You talk about the end of brainking - there is no defined end, only in the mind of some fatalists. But even if brainking 'ends', then you would not 'time-out', and even if you would, it wouldn't matter anymore. So where is the problem?

Also, there is a resign button at the bottom. Keeps you from timing out, if it is so important for you.

Did you contact your opponent and ask for a draw (or offer a draw in the game)??

Finally, which part of 'Time per move: 7 days' did you not understand when you signed up for the game? It is well known that many players fully use the alloted time; and it has been discussed about a gazillion times in detail here. If you don't want to play that slow, don't sign up for such games.

30. Mai 2017, 05:06:54
Carnie 
Backgammon (robtoo vs. Carnie)

I know I'm being annoying, but would an administrator please delete this game or call it a draw? I picked it off waiting games not knowing I could be stuck in it without getting to play before the end of Brainking. I'm trying to whittle my games down to 0. I don't want to risk timing out when I leave. It started in November and is still in 1st match.

18. Mai 2017, 00:30:18
crosseyed 
Subiectul: Re: Fathersday
Hrqls: That makes it easier to remember them both.

17. Mai 2017, 21:45:25
Bernice 
Subiectul: Re: Fathersday
crosseyed: it sure is ;0(

17. Mai 2017, 19:20:16
Mélusine 
Subiectul: Re:
ketchuplover: And, on Mothersday, mothers celebrate Mothersday for their mother and love their father too.

17. Mai 2017, 19:12:50
Mélusine 
Subiectul: Re: In his WWE hall of fame speech ...
ketchuplover:

17. Mai 2017, 18:21:04
ketchuplover 
Subiectul: In his WWE hall of fame speech ...
Mr.T said he loves his mother even on Father's day

17. Mai 2017, 14:13:46
Hrqls 
Subiectul: Re: Fathersday
crosseyed: in the netherlands mothersday is always on the 2nd sunday in may, and fathersday on the 3rd sunday in june

17. Mai 2017, 11:16:57
crosseyed 
Subiectul: Re: Fathersday
Bernice: It is odd that the dates are so completely different in so many countries for Mother Day and Father Day. You would think they would both be on set days.

17. Mai 2017, 05:34:01
Bernice 
Subiectul: Re: Fathersday
crosseyed: septemeber is fathers day in Australia I think...dont know about nz

17. Mai 2017, 00:37:11
crosseyed 
Subiectul: Re:
Modificat de crosseyed (17. Mai 2017, 00:39:38)
Mélusine: That is lovely for you. Long may it lasts
BYW Father Day in the UK is 18th June too.

16. Mai 2017, 22:22:51
Mélusine 
crosseyed: I prefer Mothersday because I do nothing this day. I've a present and I choose what I want to eat and my children and their father make the meal. I remember that a few years ago, I chose something easy to cook, but now they have experience in cooking, so the meal is better ! It's funny. It makes good memories.

16. Mai 2017, 21:58:46
crosseyed 
Subiectul: Re: Fathersday
Mélusine: Yes ever here in the UK soon.

16. Mai 2017, 21:53:08
Mélusine 
Subiectul: Fathersday
In France, Fathersday is the Sunday 2 or 3 weeks after Mothersday, this year the 18 on June. Is it the same in your country ? Is there a Fathersday in your country ?

16. Mai 2017, 21:49:20
Mélusine 
Subiectul: Re: Mothersday
grenvthompson: 30 different dates ! I'd like to know how this day is chosen.

16. Mai 2017, 21:44:35
Mélusine 
Subiectul: Re: Mothersday
Aganju: Ah yes, it's a good idea to travel but I've no children living outside France.

15. Mai 2017, 08:37:04
Gabriel Almeida 
Subiectul: Re: Mothersday
grenvthompson: in Portugal is in the first sunday of May.

15. Mai 2017, 05:32:33
grenvthompson 
Subiectul: Re: Mothersday
Aganju: Some quick research showed me there are at least 30 different dates around the world, so good travel could be most productive.

15. Mai 2017, 04:11:19
Aganju 
Subiectul: Re: Mothersday
Mélusine: so ... you could travel and have TWO of them!

15. Mai 2017, 00:01:52
Mélusine 
Subiectul: Re: Mothersday
winterangels: Thank you, but in France, Mothers Day is the last Sunday on May, so the 28.

14. Mai 2017, 14:37:25
winterangels 
Subiectul: Mothersday
HAPPYDAY TO ALL THE MOTHERS ON BRAIN KING

8. Mai 2017, 08:25:37
Hrqls 
Subiectul: Re:
Frankgon: so there is no problem now ?

6. Mai 2017, 09:01:03
Frankgon 
Sorry, I forget that I already move my King. So, 13. Is ilegal

6. Mai 2017, 08:59:25
Frankgon 
Subiectul: Re: 0-0 is a ilegal move?
Frankgon: I mean 4. ...Nf6 instead Kf6 (was a writing mistake)

6. Mai 2017, 08:57:46
Frankgon 
Subiectul: 0-0 is a ilegal move?
Hi. 0-0 is a ilegal move? I have a game against Student89 sarted 17 April 2017. My colour is white, the movings are: 1. e4 c5, 2. Nf3 Nc6, 3. Bb5 d6, 4. h3 Kf6, 5. e5 dxe5, 6. Nxe5 Qd5, 7. Bxc6+ bxc6 8.- Nf3 De6+, 9. Qe2 Qxe2+ 10. Kxe2 Ba6+, 11. Ke1 Nd5, 12. d3 c4 and I want to move 13.- 0-0 But Brainking doesn´t allows me to do this. There is no check over my King neihter checkin his way. So, why not is allowed 0-0 in this position. There is a mistake of programation in this site.

3. Mai 2017, 23:35:00
crosseyed 
Subiectul: Re: if things start breaking down...
ketchuplover: If only it was that easy.

3. Mai 2017, 18:57:26
ketchuplover 
Subiectul: if things start breaking down...
just give the site a good swift kick

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