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23. Martie 2017, 04:59:03
Bernice 
Subiectul: Re: Link
ketchuplover: well none of us know NOW what tech support it gets...but why pay to have it open when no one will be renewing...You cant tell me this COSTS NOTHING to run?

22. Martie 2017, 13:52:03
MagnumIR 
Subiectul: Re: Link
Bernice: Thanks for the information. I did not know.

21. Martie 2017, 21:30:26
blackviper55 
for how long i love this site

21. Martie 2017, 17:37:16
ketchuplover 
Subiectul: Re: Link
Bernice:

Bernice I thought/think BK will be around as long as it can last without tech support.

21. Martie 2017, 02:33:57
Bernice 
Subiectul: Re: Link
MagnumIR: in my opinion...it is your site so ad the link....but if you read back on this page you will see that Brain King will be no longer after this year....so in my mind it would be a waste of time....just my two pennies worth.

20. Martie 2017, 23:42:00
MagnumIR 
Subiectul: Link
Hi
I submitted a request to add a link to my site http://mickael.pusku.com
I added a link back but I have no news.

20. Martie 2017, 14:48:22
grenvthompson 
Subiectul: Re: Poker
Aganju: lol, ok

20. Martie 2017, 01:46:46
Aganju 
Subiectul: Re: Poker
grenvthompson: unfortunately, not much poker is going on anymore. The last time I saw anyone was about two years ago and there was one guy who joined every table, could not play, and talked you to death.

20. Martie 2017, 00:35:14
furbster 
Subiectul: Re: Poker
grenvthompson: I think you can get them once a day but only if you have less than 1000. You already have 1000

20. Martie 2017, 00:22:40
grenvthompson 
Subiectul: Poker
Anyone know how to get chips to play poker? Somewhere it says on the profile page, but I can't see anything there. Thanks .

16. Martie 2017, 04:36:56
long 
Subiectul: Re:
grenvthompson: or you can look below the Game ID. There is a line 'Your expected BKR change:' it will tell you how many BKR points you will loose/gain when the game is over.

15. Martie 2017, 06:37:03
Carnie 
Subiectul: Re:
grenvthompson marshmud: Thanks

14. Martie 2017, 21:35:10
Marshmud 
Subiectul: Re:
grenvthompson: that's correct. Alot has to depend on the bkr of your opponent. Sometimes a player receives no increase of bkr in a victory if your opponent is less rated then yourself.

14. Martie 2017, 19:42:19
grenvthompson 
Subiectul: Re:
Carnie: Pretty sure it's a version of ELO, so margin of victory is irrelevant, so no difference.

Others can fact check or verify, but that's how i read it.

14. Martie 2017, 17:45:40
Carnie 
How are the number of points added or subtracted to a BKR determined after a game is over? If I think I'm losing in backgammon, is it better to get as far as possible or just resign?

6. Martie 2017, 19:44:39
crosseyed 
Subiectul: Re:
Modificat de crosseyed (7. Martie 2017, 10:14:34)
Carnie: Okay. I think the person making the complaint, was trying to cause friction with you and me.

6. Martie 2017, 17:01:17
Carnie 
Subiectul: Re:
Brian1971: ok. Now I make mine on waiting games 3 wins match, 1 day move and no days off.

6. Martie 2017, 16:59:46
Carnie 
Subiectul: Re:
crosseyed: No you're fine.

6. Martie 2017, 12:37:37
Brian1971 
Carnie I sent you a game invite for hyper backgammon. I play my games daily and often check in when i have a free moment to make moves. Also as a pawn, I do not have hundreds or even over a 1000 games to get through to get your game with me.

6. Martie 2017, 12:13:32
Brian1971 
Subiectul: Re:
Carnie: I typically avoid multi-game matches in most cases. They take too long. Some people in tournaments drag their feet and we have had tournaments that have gone on for years and are still going on. In a some cases a few players no longer play here or they have died waiting for these tournaments to play out. Like you said the way things are going Brainking will be gone before you finish the 10 wins match.

6. Martie 2017, 11:45:31
crosseyed 
Subiectul: Re:
Modificat de crosseyed (6. Martie 2017, 11:47:52)
Carnie: If you have a problem with how long I make my moves with you, you can message me and I will see what I can do to speed things up.

6. Martie 2017, 07:37:08
Carnie 
Subiectul: Re:
Mélusine: ok I'll send an invite later. Thanks.

6. Martie 2017, 07:36:08
Carnie 
Subiectul: Re:
Brian1971: Actually I've never looked at crosseyed's profile and don't have her on block. It bothers me someone posted on waiting games and won't even play. Brainking will be gone before I finish one game of this ten wins match.

5. Martie 2017, 23:57:12
Brian1971 
Subiectul: Re:
Mélusine: LOL

5. Martie 2017, 23:52:12
Mélusine 
Subiectul: Re:
Carnie: Arghh... To be sure to play rapidly, you can invite me on a game but here's the risk I cast a spell on the dices !

5. Martie 2017, 20:39:37
Carnie 
Subiectul: Re:
Mélusine: It's like the players with hundreds or thousands of games can't take a break when they catch up, but have to hunt down poor, unsuspecting people like me. Lmbo

5. Martie 2017, 19:48:52
Mélusine 
I hate to play with slow people. I never join a tournament with time more than 3 days. It's not a problem when we are a rook but I understand it's a real problem for pawns, bishops or knights with limited moves.

5. Martie 2017, 01:44:15
Brian1971 
When I was a rook, I played hundreds of games at a time and rarely ended a day without moving on each game at least once Now i am a pawn and carry 20 games, I find the games tend to move too slow for me I also play at bug cafe but unless you pay, you only get 15 moves per day. However a month long membership is only 5 dollars USD. A year is 30 USD. You can also do 3 month and 6 month memberships. If you like word games that is a great place for you and they have other games that brainking doesnt have like cribbage and canasta.

5. Martie 2017, 00:36:48
Carnie 
I've been setting my games for one day for move and no days off.

5. Martie 2017, 00:30:40
Carnie 
Subiectul: Re:
speachless: or delete like you said. Once I think someone randomly chose me off names online and he had over 1,000 games.

5. Martie 2017, 00:29:10
Carnie 
Subiectul: Re:
speachless Aganju: ok I'll just block those I don't want to see my waiting games. After they accept, it's too late.

4. Martie 2017, 23:46:51
speachless 
Subiectul: Re:
Carnie: you have the possibility to delete a game before you make the 1st move.... so you have the possibility to make such decition but only at beginning (there is a link on the bottom "delete game", which disappears if you decide to make your first move instead...

4. Martie 2017, 23:41:39
Aganju 
Subiectul: Re:
Modificat de Aganju (4. Martie 2017, 23:43:55)
Carnie: There could. There could be all kind of such rules, and they have been discussed before (about once a year... scroll down.)
In a nutshell, it is not that easy. There are people that have 800 games running, and play all of them multiple times a days. And there are people who have five games and play each one after 30 days once. In other words, the count is not a good predictor of playing speed.

The only solution currently is that you make your own list of 'slow' players, and don't play with them anymore.

P.S.: My preferred idea is that the system shows at each players profile his 'average time to move' for the last 60 days; and that you can chose to 'hide all games and tournaments' where this number is greater than a number you decide.

4. Martie 2017, 23:23:36
Carnie 
Modificat de Carnie (4. Martie 2017, 23:24:39)
Backgammon (robtoo vs. Carnie)

Could there be a rule against people putting and accepting games on the waiting games list when they have hundreds of games going already? We started playing in November and haven't finished our first game. I've started blocking people only because I don't want them to see my games and I check to see how many they have going before I accept a game. Can it be removed from my games please?

2. Martie 2017, 01:50:17
Mélusine 
Subiectul: Re:
speachless: Yes, I agree. In France, a young programmer who begins already costs 5000 euros per month without taxes. If you add taxes.... and it depends in which country is the server. And it's necessary too to be helped with a graphic designer. It's a lot of job.

2. Martie 2017, 00:18:23
ketchuplover 
Subiectul: Perhaps......
the site can be simplified and or problematic areas eliminated

1. Martie 2017, 22:33:56
Gabriel Almeida 
Subiectul: Re:
Marshmud: indeed, Fencer made a great job, its unnacceptable that someone injures him. And all the questions we pointed here... Well, Fencer is having them now himself, of course.

1. Martie 2017, 21:04:54
speachless 
purchasing brainking makes to me only sense, if getting first the possibility to look into the accounting of the last years. Followed by a deal which includes a handing over to a new programmer. If a group comes together than I don't see a problem on who gonna decide what, cause for every serious organisation you gonna define the rules for every member since beginning.... for a group to take over I think the only issue could be to get together and deals done, so it sounds time consuming.... maybe better if only a few people comes together from a country, where programmer doesn't cost too much per hour... here in switzerland regular programmer asks between 80 to 200 euro for each hour of work...or some thousands euro a month if it's gonna be a full time job, which probably doesn't make sense....

1. Martie 2017, 20:30:09
Carnie 
Subiectul: Re:
Clandestine 1: I didnt know that. Thanks.

1. Martie 2017, 20:16:06
Brian1971 
I see no advertising but I do have an adblock app on my browser.

1. Martie 2017, 19:54:29
Clandestine 1 
Subiectul: Re:
Carnie:Pawns don't have the option to block advertisements as do paid members.

1. Martie 2017, 18:44:22
Carnie 
Subiectul: Re:
Marshmud: How would a pawn know this? I'm just curious.

1. Martie 2017, 17:19:37
Marshmud 
is there any advertisement on BK now? Could a pawn tell me if they have any adverts or banners?

1. Martie 2017, 17:15:03
Marshmud 
I told fencer many times it was a mistake to have a open forum where people could bitch to fencer and he has taken some crap over the years. I'm not defending fencer or brainking but I think it is a mistake to have a open forum to complain. Imo he should of kept Rod in charge. lol ...Seriously he needed someone on salary to deal with problems. Not a open forum to just piss off fencer and its author. I know of no other sites where you can log on to a site a talk with everybody on a public forum and complain about the owner.

Like the Trump win? Really? I'm lost for words.

1. Martie 2017, 16:57:19
Brian1971 
An interesting idea of multiple players pooling financial resources and share owning the site. However who would be the one in charge. You know what they say about too many cooks. How would final decisions get made on questions raised? And of course as Gabriel points out, you need a programmer or maybe two. Being a programmer could be a full-time job. If you are talking about 30-40 USD an hour based on a 40 hour week that is between 1200 and 1600 dollars a week. If one of the owners or possibly more could do the programming, then how much time would they actually have to enjoy playing games? Fencer doesn't play many games and as far as I can tell, never did. If you are going to make this site an investment, you have to consider not only the money to put into it, but also the time and can you earn your investment back and make a profit? If you are in it for a hobby as it was suggested earlier, is the kind of money Fencer is possibly looking for worth it? There are far less expensive and worthwhile hobbies. It almost sounds like those who can't let go are the same type who can't accept the Trump election results. If the site can be saved, that is great. If it can't let it go. It is not healthy to hold on to something that isn't meant to last. This is just my opinion. Not looking for an argument here.

1. Martie 2017, 16:56:08
Marshmud 
Subiectul: Re: Valuation
Modificat de Marshmud (1. Martie 2017, 16:58:19)
Gabriel Almeida: Most don't know what is involved maintaining a site like brainking. You need a full time programmer or even two if your working on new ideas or games. I spent time investigating the purchase of BK. Its hard to know how much of BK would be transferred on a sale of BK. Most don't know the vast amount of code wrote for BK or over 15 years of game data.. Its truly a one of a kind site. You cant buy it and expect income immediately until you show the public you mean business to attract the old and new players. Plus the expenses just to keep it online. Its not cheap.

1. Martie 2017, 16:36:48
Gabriel Almeida 
Subiectul: Re: Valuation
SL-Mark:crowdfunding seems a good idea, but I believe the most dfcult question is the technical one. Without Fencer we loose the programer of the site. Im not a programer, but I believe the program codes and experience in this peculiar site are not easily shared. So, we need the money to buy the site, but also the know-how to keep it rolling.

1. Martie 2017, 15:03:02
SL-Mark 
Subiectul: Re: Valuation
Mélusine: That indeed is a very low valuation!

We could have a player buy out , 100 players @ $100 each. And then a further $100 ea / year for the operating costs. These players could then become Maharajahs as well as business owners, though judging by some of the forums, it would make an interesting management team! :)

Anyone thought about using Crowdfunding to raise the capital?

1. Martie 2017, 14:43:23
Mélusine 
Subiectul: Re:
Marshmud: I think that 60000 dollars for this website is actually very expensive, because this site declines. In France, the average price of websites is lower, even for commercial sites with more customers per month and giving more money. But I can understand that Fencer has difficulties to sell his "baby" he created.

1. Martie 2017, 14:36:26
Mélusine 
Subiectul: Re: Valuation
SL-Mark: I also looked for the probable value of the site. From France, I don't find the same value (of course : Brainking isn't known in France). Here's the result : http://www.estimasite.com/brainking.com

And you can see on the graph that the value of the site decreases.

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