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28. oktober 2013, 11:29:09
iv2 

28. oktober 2013, 00:57:21
♥♫βaβyĢіґŁŁє♫♥ 
Onderwerp: Re:
ketchuplover: I think I'll take a pass on that one.

27. oktober 2013, 22:53:11
ketchuplover 
Onderwerp: Re:
Aganju:

Both!

27. oktober 2013, 12:44:01
Aganju 
Onderwerp: Re:
ketchuplover: is that a trick? Or would that be a treat?

27. oktober 2013, 11:42:18
ketchuplover 
Onderwerp: Re:
♥♫βaβyĢіґŁŁє♫♥:

smell my feet

22. oktober 2013, 11:51:02
crosseyed_uk 
Onderwerp: Re: re: computer cheating
Hrqls: I am glad your boy is well again. Regarding that poster "lost in translation" comes to mind.

22. oktober 2013, 11:43:40
Hrqls 
Onderwerp: following threads
computeropponen: could you please reply to a message using the "box" link next to the "reply: link underneath a message? that way anyone reading your posts can click on "show thread" to follow the topic itself and we dont have to dig other posts which belong to another thread ...

22. oktober 2013, 11:39:46
Hrqls 
Onderwerp: Re: re: computer cheating
Aangepast door Hrqls (22. oktober 2013, 11:41:46)
computeropponen: sorry, i dont understand your question? i am just a mod on the brainking.com board (and the dutch board), nowhere else .. if you want to discuss the way a board is being moderated please discuss it with the moderator of that specific board

i am just an ordinary player on this board

the discussion i saw from you on this board though wasnt about moderating but about possible cheating and ratings and chess, not about the moderating :)

fyi: the picture is my son who was seriously ill, but is ok now (6 monthly medical checkup the following years), but that talk doesnt belong on this board :)

(forgot about 2 other boards, i am also a mod on the books and the jarmo boards)

21. oktober 2013, 20:59:35
PCfromKNM 

21. oktober 2013, 18:26:37
beach 
Onderwerp: New Tournament
Aangepast door beach (21. oktober 2013, 18:27:03)
made 2 new tourments  3 day time limit  Quick Tourney II   or
End of October Gammons

21. oktober 2013, 15:02:52
Nirvana 
Knight Fight Tournament : S/E

There is a Knight Fight Team Tournament starting soon :

http://brainking.com/en/TeamTournaments?tri=343&trnst=10


If anyone wants to play please join this fellowship and it's Team.
¥εstεrday's Wørld Knight Fight Team

20. oktober 2013, 14:37:43
ur a cheater dr 
Onderwerp: Re: re: computer cheating
Hrqls: i did not know you are the Moderator of other discuss board until i post on the brainking discuss. it is good for me to discuss with the guy watch the board.
i don't like your yellow picture, but i like to discuss my thought abt this site openly with a moderator.

20. oktober 2013, 12:33:27
Undertaker. 
Onderwerp: Team Tournaments
What's the matter with team tournaments? Only one to people join? It's a misery.

20. oktober 2013, 00:11:28
beach 
Onderwerp: new tourney
Quick start Tourney  would like to get more players please

19. oktober 2013, 19:57:44
ur a cheater dr 
Onderwerp: Re: re: why Hou Yifan is women world champion
MadMonkey:
my topic to discuss is: you should play a stronger player to improve yourself. don't pick the weak one just for winning and get BKR point.
ok. thanks for your advise. this is my last post. no more....

19. oktober 2013, 18:21:26
MadMonkey 
Onderwerp: Re: re: why Hou Yifan is women world champion
computeropponen: Can you keep this board for Tournament advertising & discussion please.

Feel free to talk about Chess on the relevant Chess Board

Thanks

19. oktober 2013, 04:27:09
ur a cheater dr 
Onderwerp: re: why Hou Yifan is women world champion
Fide Women's World champion, 19-year-old GM Hou Yifan of china won the champion covincingly.
her rating 2609 higher than her opponent's 2500.
the most important is she has played in tournament of men's group,her middle and end game skill is stronger.

18. oktober 2013, 22:13:20
ur a cheater dr 
Onderwerp: Re: re: play under time pressure
Retep:
i don't know some one cheating on chess, in my opinion @ this site there are only suspects, no one is proved a cheater.
for an ordinary chess player, there are something you can learn by playing here, if you don't care abt win or lose.
for a serious player you will pick up the bad habit, the time trouble. because it is not the right way to play in the real game

18. oktober 2013, 21:52:00
Retep 
Onderwerp: Re: re: play under time pressure
computeropponen: Before Brainking I only played ordinary chess, too. You could try some variants. I don't play ordinary chess online because of the cheating

18. oktober 2013, 21:11:10
ur a cheater dr 
Onderwerp: Re: re: play under time pressure
Retep:
at the high level of chess tournament so many games are decided by who can play under time pressure.
you have to move fast, think fast, find the correct move in a short time.
sorry i just talk about chess, or chinese chess.
i don't know anything beside these two.
so i don't have hundreds or thousands games to play

18. oktober 2013, 20:54:45
Retep 
Onderwerp: Re: re: play under time pressure
computeropponen: Some people have hundreds or even thousands of games and always use the full time limit.. some others move very fast.. I'm an average player with 200+ games and quite some moves every day

18. oktober 2013, 20:49:52
ur a cheater dr 
Onderwerp: re: play under time pressure
the game i play black, i made a mistake for moving quickly. i beat him at last because he played the way i wanted to move fast. he finally blunder under time pressure.
people move very very slowly to make me sick. i lost interest and the game.
i'm sick of people seeing my move and logout, again and again and again....

18. oktober 2013, 20:35:21
ur a cheater dr 
Onderwerp: Re: Re yes, how much?
The Col:
i am lucky to beat maho two games.
how about i trade the BKR points for your commission.

18. oktober 2013, 20:27:03
The Col 
Onderwerp: Reyes, how much?
computeropponen: Sorry, I only work on commision

18. oktober 2013, 20:17:21
ur a cheater dr 
Onderwerp: Re:
The Col: yes, how much?

18. oktober 2013, 20:08:00
The Col 
Onderwerp: Re:
computeropponen: good enough to buy a membership?

18. oktober 2013, 19:49:22
ur a cheater dr 
bk.com is the top no.1 for serious player to play chess

18. oktober 2013, 19:46:39
ur a cheater dr 
this is the best site in the world

18. oktober 2013, 14:45:27
beach 
Onderwerp: New Tournament
Quick start Tourney   small tourney all game types

16. oktober 2013, 22:03:58
PCfromKNM 

15. oktober 2013, 04:44:42
Clandestine 1 

13. oktober 2013, 23:37:23
The Col 
Onderwerp: All People & Walkers welcome !!
Aangepast door The Col (13. oktober 2013, 23:38:53)

13. oktober 2013, 18:51:13
iv2 
ses borec co to ma co spolecneho s turnajama ?

13. oktober 2013, 18:49:00
ur a cheater dr 
Onderwerp: Re: how a player is rated @ this site
computeropponen:
now i'm playing with this guy Volkov BKR 1866, I found out that he is a weak player,he does not know how to play the chinese chess.
in a real chinese chess world, a 18xx is a expert...

13. oktober 2013, 17:39:26
ur a cheater dr 
Onderwerp: Re:
iv2:
good

13. oktober 2013, 17:28:08
iv2 
yes

13. oktober 2013, 16:01:47
ur a cheater dr 
Onderwerp: Re: how a player is rated @ this site
computeropponen:
it looks like some one just beating boys and claimed to be a man!
a bigger fish in a small pond
it is not a lion among a group of tigers!

13. oktober 2013, 15:52:35
ur a cheater dr 
Onderwerp: Re:
iv2:
!@#$% ^& *()_+?>/.<,=_+~\|1234567890
qwertyuiopsdfghjklzxcvbnma
u understand?

13. oktober 2013, 13:44:19
iv2 
nemas to jedno ?

13. oktober 2013, 13:27:05
ur a cheater dr 
Onderwerp: Re: how a player is rated @ this site
computeropponen: another example
GameType:Chinese Chess
Volkov: BKR=1866, Rank=10, Defeated players: Monastario 1521, Boo Qadm 1334, RayL 1396, RayL 1396. No of games played 4(4/0/0)
he is undeated too! wow.........

13. oktober 2013, 13:07:46
ur a cheater dr 
Onderwerp: Re: how a player is rated @ this site
Justaminute:
lets see this player's rating:
Game type:Chinese Chess
Name: sembazuru
BKR: 1855
Rank:11
Games counted: 6(8/0/0)
Date game finished: from 6/Jan/2013 to 27/Sept/2013
No of moves: from 1 to 20
Players he defeated: Xabyer 1283, miyckarin unrated, Ronnie0000 1166, hovdini123 1431, mickaelpush 1337, shocksteel 1335, nibler29 1147, Boo Qadom 1334.
The highest rated player he defeated is 1431, how could he be rated 1855?
Now you will get the idea the BKR is inflated.

9. oktober 2013, 17:18:37
ur a cheater dr 
Onderwerp: Re: re: computer cheating
computeropponen:
moves match the chess engine's choice is not cheating if not thing is found after complete search.
all the 2700 player moves match computer's choice in the opening, are they quilty of cheating?
some even can remember the moves up to the mid-game stage.
i think Borislav Ivanov has upper memory....

7. oktober 2013, 16:59:17
Pedro Martínez 
Onderwerp: Re: re: computer cheating
computeropponen: Body cavity search should be performed on them as well!

7. oktober 2013, 14:12:23
ur a cheater dr 
Onderwerp: Re: re: computer cheating
Hrqls: Borislav Ivanov is not banned, he just refused to take off his shoes and socks and forfeited his game. He will be back playing chess again. he should demand all his opponents, especially those GMs rated above him take off shoes and socks and underwear even after search completed.....
If he can beat the computer by 10-0, he himself also a machine, only computer can beat computer,
no wonder his move match the top choice of the chess engines..

7. oktober 2013, 08:06:49
Hrqls 
Onderwerp: Re: re: computer cheating
computeropponen: i agree: chess should be played naked! like the olympics in ancient times!

and female chess compeition should be broadcast live ;)

5. oktober 2013, 17:04:58
ur a cheater dr 
Onderwerp: re: computer cheating
did i say some one is a cheater here? no. i just pointed out that someone with so high BKR in chess with 2717. i just can't believe it. he is just a suspect in my opinion....
Borislav Ivanov, the Bulgarian 2300 chess master who is banned for refusing to take off his shoes and socks demanded by the arbiter of the tournament , now he quit chess.
He was searched many x and no electronic equipment was found, so he is just a suspect, i don't think he is a cheater....
i have read the articles @ chessbase.com: "He never calculated moves" and" Borislav Ivanov speaks out"
he was accused of cheating by many masters some are the loser against him, no one who beat him has raised any question abt his game that he is cheating. Rombaldoni Axel who analysised the game he lost to him. even said " absolutely, he is cheating" in an interview.
in an interview Borislav speak out that he practice a lot with the computer, and after beating Rybka & Houdini by 10-0 each, he was absolutelly sure that no-one was gonna stop him winning...why not get him to prove it?
i won't take off my shoes and socks because i have toenail fungus ..ha

3. oktober 2013, 16:38:04
ur a cheater dr 
now people have something to talk about, not like before, the creator just post his tour by a short note like this; PC-yper 2013.....

3. oktober 2013, 10:33:34
Justaminute 
Onderwerp: Re:
Aangepast door Justaminute (3. oktober 2013, 12:49:58)
An analysis of BKRs simply indicates grades get inflated with activity For example if you look at the most popular and least popular games on the site (based on the current number of games being played) you get the following:

(a) No of established grades
(b) Top Grade
(c) Number of grades over 2000
(d) % over 2000

Most Popular

1 Ludo
(a) 327
(b) 2350
(c) 222
(d) 68%

2 Backgammon
(a) 670
(b) 2634
(c) 571
(d) 85%

3 Chess
(a) 513
(b) 2717
(c) 162
(d) 32%

Least Popular

1 Alquerque
(a) 19
(b) 2030
(c) 2
(d) 11%

2 Jarmo
(a) 25
(b) 1713
(c)0
(d) 0%

3One Way checkers
(a) 11
(b)1873
(c) 0
(d) 0%

You have to be a very strong player (or have a very strong computer) in an unpopular game to get a grade of over 2000. You would need to win a lot of games and have a perfect record. Compare that with backgammon where 85% of grades are over 2000. You are almost guaranteed to have a grade of over 2000 with a half decent record because everyone you play against has a grade of over 2000.
Do the statistics indicate there are lots of chess computers being used? Not to me. Yes the top grade is higher than Ludo and Backgammon but the number of grades over 2000 is a much smaller percentage of the total population. If a high grade indicates cheating then there is a lot more going on in Backgammon and Ludo, which I would have thought was impossible.
The conclusion I draw is that
1. Grades across games are not comparable.
2. Grades are inflationary
3. There will be no correlation between a BKR and a FIDE grade.
Why is the system inflationary? I don’t know but I guess it has something to do with good players staying on in the system and weak players not. For example if 2 players with a 1500 grade play, the winner gets say 1600 and the loser gets 1400. The loser stops playing and drops out of the system. The winner carries on playing and the average grade is now 1600.

3. oktober 2013, 10:02:34
iv2 
to je diskuze o nicem !

3. oktober 2013, 08:10:45
Hrqls 
Onderwerp: Re: re: computer
computeropponen: there is some other factors which might be of some influence: on a game site you can chose your opponents and you might win more by timeout than otb and you might stall or speed up certain games to get the ultimate profit or bkr changes

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