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4. juni 2017, 08:46:42
Pedro Martínez 
Onderwerp: Re: S-B wrongly calculated
Marshmud: They are both tie-breakers. The rule below in SE tournaments, and S-B in regular tourneys. In other words, Thom27 is correct in his original post.

3. juni 2017, 23:08:43
Marshmud 
Onderwerp: Re: S-B wrongly calculated
Pedro Martínez: Yes my friend but is that not a BK rule and have nothing to do with the S-B?

3. juni 2017, 16:02:02
Pedro Martínez 
Onderwerp: Re: S-B wrongly calculated
Marshmud: This only applies to "single elimination" tournaments.

"Warning! If a normal game ends as a draw, the player with lower BKR would advance to the next round (in case of equal BKRs, the one who didn't start the game - the black player in most games). If you want to avoid such situations, create this tournament with 1 win matches instead."

3. juni 2017, 15:06:32
Thom27 
Onderwerp: Re: S-B wrongly calculated
Marshmud: I don't find a rule anywhere that in case of equal ponts and S-B, the rating decides. But here I found an example of a shared victory in this case. So it seems to be a bug or glitch.

Maybe fencer will find time to fix it.

2. juni 2017, 18:54:11
Marshmud 
Onderwerp: Re: S-B wrongly calculated
Thom27: After further investigation I stand behind my original statement. In fact you should of won that tournament.

2. juni 2017, 01:55:23
Marshmud 
Onderwerp: Re: S-B wrongly calculated
coan.net: I thought the Sonneborn-Berger system is used to specify an order of players with the same number of points and is based on a theory that points earned with a stronger opponent are more valuable than with a weaker one. So there should be no tie unless both players have the same BKR.

2. juni 2017, 01:42:43
Marshmud 
Onderwerp: Re: S-B wrongly calculated
coan.net: The actual S-B total sum has been incorrect for some time but the order has been correct. I was explained in the past that if a tie the lower rated player wins. However I think it was in a prize tournament I ran and fencer paid it out that way. Your correct there is a bug .I've noticed the sum of the S-B total has been incorrect in many of the tournaments I've been in

2. juni 2017, 01:25:36
coan.net 
Onderwerp: Re: S-B wrongly calculated
Marshmud: Actually it does look like a bug, the S-B should be 33 for both. Ratings don't matter for the S-B.

S-B is just you add the points for each win they have.

Each players had 1 win against a player that had 9 points.(x1 = 9 points)
Each player had 2 wins against a player that had 6 points (x2 = 12 points)
Each player had 2 wins against a player that had 4 points (x2 = 8 points)
Each player had 2 wins against a player that had 0 points (x2 = 0 points)
Each player had 2 wins against a player that had 2 points (x2 = 4 points)

So each player should have ended up with a 33 S-B rating.

1. juni 2017, 19:26:53
Marshmud 
Onderwerp: Re: S-B wrongly calculated
Thom27: Not necessary. If tosty had a lower bkr when this tournament started (feb 2012) and since you two split your match the player with the lower bkr wins. Both of you also won all your other matches.

1. juni 2017, 19:05:26
Carnie 
"Smokin cigarettes and watchin' Captain Kang...Kang a roo. Now don't tell me ...I've nothin' to do."

1. juni 2017, 17:54:38
crosseyed 
Onderwerp: Re:
Mélusine: Good for you.

1. juni 2017, 16:45:18
Carnie 
Onderwerp: Re:
Mélusine: I'll renew if Brainking stays. I'm an optomist unless I'm told by the owner he's closing. :)

1. juni 2017, 14:32:49
Thom27 
Onderwerp: S-B wrongly calculated
In this tournament table the S-B values are wrong. Me and tolsty2002 should have the same value, since we have the same match results.

1. juni 2017, 00:40:49
Mélusine 
I don't like slow players but they don't cheat, they just play differently. I'm an optimist, I renewed my subscription.

30. mei 2017, 17:29:15
Carnie 
Onderwerp: Re:
crosseyed: :/ so it must be my phone. It takes all kinds of kinds.

30. mei 2017, 17:00:05
crosseyed 
Onderwerp: Re:
Carnie: Never mind.

30. mei 2017, 14:31:28
Carnie 
Onderwerp: Re:
crosseyed: I'll have to renew membie to send you a real smile lol.

30. mei 2017, 14:25:37
crosseyed 
Onderwerp: Re:
Carnie:

30. mei 2017, 14:24:36
Carnie 
Onderwerp: Re:
crosseyed: ok :)

30. mei 2017, 14:09:40
crosseyed 
Onderwerp: Re:
Carnie: Keep playing here as like others have stated there is no definite ending to Brainking in the near future.

30. mei 2017, 13:42:17
Carnie 
Onderwerp: Re:
furbster: True. Just didn't like having more losses than wins lol. It's 10 matches. I'll let it sit.

30. mei 2017, 13:38:03
furbster 
Onderwerp: Re:
Carnie: If you're playing robtoo, the game is almost certainly unrated anyway, so even if you resign it's not gonna cost you any rating points.

30. mei 2017, 13:13:54
Aganju 
Onderwerp: Re:
Aangepast door Aganju (30. mei 2017, 13:15:07)
Carnie: you have some contradicting asumptions here...

You talk about the end of brainking - there is no defined end, only in the mind of some fatalists. But even if brainking 'ends', then you would not 'time-out', and even if you would, it wouldn't matter anymore. So where is the problem?

Also, there is a resign button at the bottom. Keeps you from timing out, if it is so important for you.

Did you contact your opponent and ask for a draw (or offer a draw in the game)??

Finally, which part of 'Time per move: 7 days' did you not understand when you signed up for the game? It is well known that many players fully use the alloted time; and it has been discussed about a gazillion times in detail here. If you don't want to play that slow, don't sign up for such games.

30. mei 2017, 05:06:54
Carnie 
Backgammon (robtoo vs. Carnie)

I know I'm being annoying, but would an administrator please delete this game or call it a draw? I picked it off waiting games not knowing I could be stuck in it without getting to play before the end of Brainking. I'm trying to whittle my games down to 0. I don't want to risk timing out when I leave. It started in November and is still in 1st match.

18. mei 2017, 00:30:18
crosseyed 
Onderwerp: Re: Fathersday
Hrqls: That makes it easier to remember them both.

17. mei 2017, 21:45:25
Bernice 
Onderwerp: Re: Fathersday
crosseyed: it sure is ;0(

17. mei 2017, 19:20:16
Mélusine 
Onderwerp: Re:
ketchuplover: And, on Mothersday, mothers celebrate Mothersday for their mother and love their father too.

17. mei 2017, 19:12:50
Mélusine 
Onderwerp: Re: In his WWE hall of fame speech ...
ketchuplover:

17. mei 2017, 18:21:04
ketchuplover 
Onderwerp: In his WWE hall of fame speech ...
Mr.T said he loves his mother even on Father's day

17. mei 2017, 14:13:46
Hrqls 
Onderwerp: Re: Fathersday
crosseyed: in the netherlands mothersday is always on the 2nd sunday in may, and fathersday on the 3rd sunday in june

17. mei 2017, 11:16:57
crosseyed 
Onderwerp: Re: Fathersday
Bernice: It is odd that the dates are so completely different in so many countries for Mother Day and Father Day. You would think they would both be on set days.

17. mei 2017, 05:34:01
Bernice 
Onderwerp: Re: Fathersday
crosseyed: septemeber is fathers day in Australia I think...dont know about nz

17. mei 2017, 00:37:11
crosseyed 
Onderwerp: Re:
Aangepast door crosseyed (17. mei 2017, 00:39:38)
Mélusine: That is lovely for you. Long may it lasts
BYW Father Day in the UK is 18th June too.

16. mei 2017, 22:22:51
Mélusine 
crosseyed: I prefer Mothersday because I do nothing this day. I've a present and I choose what I want to eat and my children and their father make the meal. I remember that a few years ago, I chose something easy to cook, but now they have experience in cooking, so the meal is better ! It's funny. It makes good memories.

16. mei 2017, 21:58:46
crosseyed 
Onderwerp: Re: Fathersday
Mélusine: Yes ever here in the UK soon.

16. mei 2017, 21:53:08
Mélusine 
Onderwerp: Fathersday
In France, Fathersday is the Sunday 2 or 3 weeks after Mothersday, this year the 18 on June. Is it the same in your country ? Is there a Fathersday in your country ?

16. mei 2017, 21:49:20
Mélusine 
Onderwerp: Re: Mothersday
grenvthompson: 30 different dates ! I'd like to know how this day is chosen.

16. mei 2017, 21:44:35
Mélusine 
Onderwerp: Re: Mothersday
Aganju: Ah yes, it's a good idea to travel but I've no children living outside France.

15. mei 2017, 08:37:04
Gabriel Almeida 
Onderwerp: Re: Mothersday
grenvthompson: in Portugal is in the first sunday of May.

15. mei 2017, 05:32:33
grenvthompson 
Onderwerp: Re: Mothersday
Aganju: Some quick research showed me there are at least 30 different dates around the world, so good travel could be most productive.

15. mei 2017, 04:11:19
Aganju 
Onderwerp: Re: Mothersday
Mélusine: so ... you could travel and have TWO of them!

15. mei 2017, 00:01:52
Mélusine 
Onderwerp: Re: Mothersday
winterangels: Thank you, but in France, Mothers Day is the last Sunday on May, so the 28.

14. mei 2017, 14:37:25
winterangels 
Onderwerp: Mothersday
HAPPYDAY TO ALL THE MOTHERS ON BRAIN KING

8. mei 2017, 08:25:37
Hrqls 
Onderwerp: Re:
Frankgon: so there is no problem now ?

6. mei 2017, 09:01:03
Frankgon 
Sorry, I forget that I already move my King. So, 13. Is ilegal

6. mei 2017, 08:59:25
Frankgon 
Onderwerp: Re: 0-0 is a ilegal move?
Frankgon: I mean 4. ...Nf6 instead Kf6 (was a writing mistake)

6. mei 2017, 08:57:46
Frankgon 
Onderwerp: 0-0 is a ilegal move?
Hi. 0-0 is a ilegal move? I have a game against Student89 sarted 17 April 2017. My colour is white, the movings are: 1. e4 c5, 2. Nf3 Nc6, 3. Bb5 d6, 4. h3 Kf6, 5. e5 dxe5, 6. Nxe5 Qd5, 7. Bxc6+ bxc6 8.- Nf3 De6+, 9. Qe2 Qxe2+ 10. Kxe2 Ba6+, 11. Ke1 Nd5, 12. d3 c4 and I want to move 13.- 0-0 But Brainking doesn´t allows me to do this. There is no check over my King neihter checkin his way. So, why not is allowed 0-0 in this position. There is a mistake of programation in this site.

3. mei 2017, 23:35:00
crosseyed 
Onderwerp: Re: if things start breaking down...
ketchuplover: If only it was that easy.

3. mei 2017, 18:57:26
ketchuplover 
Onderwerp: if things start breaking down...
just give the site a good swift kick

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