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18. Heinäkuu 2003, 23:41:56
Fencer 
It includes everything :-) No timeouts until I turn it off.

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 23:40:42
MidnightMcMedic 
Will this include vacations? I'm leaving Monday and am hoping to make it online once while gone, but can't promise. Just checking :)

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 23:38:12
Fencer 
Please don't look and dates and times in games. I've stopped them in order to prevent any more timeouts until the database server bug is fixed.

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 23:38:07
Andersp 
brave girl Cariad

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 23:37:16
harley 
ROFL @ Cariad!!! *big grin*!!

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 23:37:15
danoschek 
Otsikko: The Computer Is The Answer !!
*uhmmm - errrm* Could you repeat your question ?? :P ~*~

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 23:37:06
Bernice 
I am playing a tournament game with Eliot61, game number 124540.
He last moved on the 2nd July and i replied to his move on even date.
For me the date is the 19th June and he STILL has 16 days to make his move...UMMMMMM???
bit unfair???

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 23:35:13
danoschek 
Otsikko: The Iron Computing Commandments
1) The puter shalt be serving the human ...
2) The earth shalt be a disk ... :D ... ~*~

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 23:34:03
cariad 
MODERATOR!! Fencer said a naughty word! Ban him - I dare you!

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 22:55:15
Fencer 
Damned computers! For example, BrainKing is currently [22:44 GMT+01:00] incredibly fast for no apparent reason. Which is good news because the problem obviously can be solved. Within some days ;-)

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 22:32:34
Andersp 
Harley..If i have waited since march im sure i can wait til sunday :)

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 22:31:03
harley 
Have a little patience, Gubbe!! All great things are worth waiting for :o)

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 22:22:17
Andersp 
Cant wait til Liquid is back from Norway!!!! :)

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 20:52:05
Rose 
Otsikko: Let's get that money drive going!!
Using this link Support Brainking

You can donate any amount of money in any form of currency, any credit card, or use paypal (larger fee to use paypal then to use direct payment)

If you can only afford ONE Dollar - Half a £ - or the equivalent if your own currency,
it all will add up..and be very much appreciated and just think! How kool would it be to have a faster running site with no more down times???

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 20:51:07
Fencer 
Otsikko: Re: Rose :-) thoughts............
Of course it is okay. But nobody can expect new server within a week :-)

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 19:44:57
Radiant2008 :-) 
Otsikko: Re: Rose :-) thoughts............
Yes, I can spare a few bucks, not much as $5,- but when Fencer is okay, start the sponsoring! :-)

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 19:41:54
Radiant2008 :-) 
Otsikko: Fencer!!!! :-)
I have to apologise!!! I am very sorry, Fencer.. I see the game now.. thought it would appear on top of my list... but you have been so generous of providing all of us many many days, so I just saw the game somewhere in the middle of my list!

Again, I apologise for being such a nuisance today.. I know you do excellent work.. and I appreciate it! And as I said earlier: I very much enjoy playing on this site and I knOw the work will be lighter when we all send you encouragements!

Stay cool, màn and yes, keep up the good work!!!! TGIF: Happy weekend!

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 18:25:20
harley 
Thanks Dano, theres also a yahoo group called BK_HOME that Paul71 founded. Its a good idea to join one of these groups then you can at least check with other people as to site access. Plus they're fun! lol!

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 18:18:52
MidnightMcMedic 
Otsikko: Re: Thoughts?.........
I would be willing to give a dollar or two. Cant do much more right now, but would if I could an would if it would help.

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 17:56:48
Rose 
Otsikko: Thoughts?........................
In light of many email complaints I have received today and Myself only just gaining access to the site now (12:45Pm Friday EST) after trying for 4 hours to get in, I would like to seriously suggest a drive for money to help Fencer get the new server.

Fencer this has been brought up a few times and after discussion with a few people we wonder why you made no comments to this discussion?

IF everyone on the site sent one dollar, Half a £ or something to the equivelant wouldn't that be enough to kick start the new server?


There have been many suggestions which all seem fair to help out.

Today another thought was that since the site is seemingly worse to access any time of day that we cease any new tournaments and limit all DB discussions so that would possibly free up enough room to just let people play their games.

For those that have gained access to the site today let me hear your thoughts on this and hopefully we can get Fencer to join in with this discussion and give us his thoughts on the ideas that have been bounced around.

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 17:56:31
sandra... 
Otsikko: Re: Moaning and Groaning
i am in total agreement with harley and medic, this is a great place to be, yes the site does have its problems, there are only 2 people running it! you cannot expect miracles.. it is not their livleyhood, they have to work too...
so please everyone, be patient, It will get better!!!!!!!!

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 17:54:04
Fencer 
Otsikko: Re: Moaning and Groaning
Thanks MidnightMedic :-)
Just to make it absolutely clear, it's more than two weeks ago when Liquid had gone for his vacation in Norway, so it's only me who runs it now. He'll be back on Sunday, I hope.

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 17:51:50
MidnightMcMedic 
Otsikko: Moaning and Groaning
Yes, the site has its problems, but as Harley said, they are just two guys running it and one of them is out of town. I personally think Fencer does a wonderful job of keeping us up to date on what is going on and not leaving us hanging. He (or they) set up the alternate webpage that tells what is going on with the server and that helps. I realize its frustrating, believe me, but hang in there. I have found no other place that I enjoy near as much!!!!

Keep up the good work Fencer and Liquid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 17:47:26
danoschek 
Otsikko: relativity :D
it should not be forgotten that until summer 2001
average two catastrophical crashes per year took out
also IYT peridodicly ... that's why iyt-town was founded mainly ... ;)
so we could stay in touch during the continueing mess ...

even after that it took them more than a year to get a new server
that still messed up daily then, yet for many weeks ...
still once per day their maintainance casts drop-outs, remember !

reminds me that my club@yahoo indeed is no iyt-club from the principle ...
it's for board-games players in general and, perhaps a good
option to exchange also reports about access problems here ...
whining a bit is understandable and, granted there. :D

even the known iyt-bullies are welcome as long
as they keep their language children-proof ... okay ? 8)

feel invited to visit us not only when BK is down ... :")

Harley founded a special club for the Fellowships-BigBosses -
so we have yet another
pivot to stay informed ... ~*~

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 17:27:30
Fencer 
harley: Thanks :-)
Radiant: I've already done it yesterday.

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 12:36:09
Radiant2008 :-) 
Otsikko: Replying on harley & Fencer..
I was just trying to avoid complaining so much, but since a tourny game timed out, I couldn´t just stay silent anymore..

You say: "Fencer restores games that time out.."

then I repeat my question: Fencer, could you please reset/restore this game for me - Game ID: 79002 - its a tourny game.. which i would realy like continue playing. :-)

Many thanks again for your updates, your efforts and your hard work on this site.

And thanks harley for your positive note :-)

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 09:04:09
harley 
I think this site is well worth putting up with the faults. We know they won't last forever. Fencer restores games that time out, he keeps us informed of progress and is ever patient in doing so. He can't do much more than he is.
I have had faith from the start and continue to do so. Access WILL improve. Don't forget, this whole wonderful place is created by just two guys, and those same guys have to maintain the site. It can't be easy. I think support (even just verbal) would be far more constructive than complaints. If I was running a site and received nothing but criticism I would be more tempted to wipe the whole thing than to spend hours of my time fixing it!

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 08:17:43
danoschek 
Otsikko: database error
indeed I got an explicite guru from the sql server in between too
not sure to remember well but I think it was a 500 or 505 ...

good luck ~*~

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 08:11:11
Fencer 
Otsikko: A quick update
1) Something's wrong with database server.
2) Liquid's on vacation, he'll be back on Sunday.
3) Until then, I play so often to monitor the site activity and keep it alive when I am on-line. Of course, I must sleep sometimes.
4) I've just added extra 3 days to all games.

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 04:23:43
Radiant2008 :-) 
Otsikko: RE: Fencer, Site Access!
I cannot believe my previous message got through... because my system showed me a hanging site.

Anyway, i sent Fencer and email about this as well.

Fencer, could you please reset Game ID: 79002 I just ran out of time.. :-((( I especcially woke up, to check in and see about the game.. but i was just too late and its in the middle of the night for me!

Could you please give us some additional time, so we indeed can play our games on regular hours?

Many thanks in advance,
~*Radiant 36 9*~

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 03:22:45
Jason 
Otsikko: Re: Re: Bernice and Gubbe: Site Access
it only took me 5 or 6 hours to get on here again !! now its time for my bed without managing any moves , i am at work again for twelve hours tommorow . if i cant get on again tommorow i could end up timing out on some games as i may not get time to access the site for two days after tommorow ;~(

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 02:26:40
Andersp 
Otsikko: Re: Re: Bernice and Gubbe: Site Access
Usurper..I hade the same faith when i joined in march but no improvements at all since then..same "excuses" ..more money..more time..be patient..who will give him the money when the site doesnt work? I've invited people but they come back and tell me they couldnt access..dont think they will pay anything :)

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 02:19:38
Usurper 
Otsikko: Re: Re: Bernice and Gubbe: Site Access
The issue here for Fencer seems to be money rather than time, Gubbe. As such, cutting down on his playing time addresses nothing of importance. And from a positive standpoint it helps him get to know some of the members. I believe this site will improve. All things take time. Especially good things.

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 00:35:51
Andersp 
Otsikko: Re: Re: Bernice and Gubbe: Site Access
Seems to me that Fencer has a lot of time he is on "top 10" for most active player almost every day. Maybe more fun to play games than fixing the site? :)

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 00:31:47
Purple 
Otsikko: Re: Re: Bernice and Gubbe: Site Access
Probably true. I have a heck of a time getting on too and I hate it but I like to be optomistic about the future. IYT has hundreds of thousands of members, years of experience, severe restrictions on non-members, advertising and fancy prices and they still have glitches. I like to think Fencer will do better given some time and support.

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 00:20:49
Andersp 
Otsikko: Re: Re: Bernice and Gubbe: Site Access
Chief..not sure that so many now paying members will pay when the membership expires if no improvements are made..at least i know one who wont :)

18. Heinäkuu 2003, 00:16:57
Purple 
Otsikko: Re: Re: Bernice and Gubbe: Site Access
The irony is the solution is more paying members. Not fewer. Then we get new server.

17. Heinäkuu 2003, 22:59:32
Radiant2008 :-) 
Otsikko: Re: Bernice and Gubbe: Site Access
This week its terrible! Everytime I try to logon, I have to keep trying and trying to get access the site and once I am on it takes me 30 minutes to play 1 game.. :-( After every move, I most of the time I get the "BrainKing.com - Please wait" site... And this also count for sending/reading messages... *big sigh - It looks like it only gets worse...

I thought the paying members got priority in access?

Anyway.. would it be an idea to get time added, everytime you cannot access the site?? Games are running out of time, because I cannot access and/or play them..

Its not our fault that we cannot sign in, so could you please consider to give us back any extra time, Fencer?? :-)

In good Fellowship,
~*Radiant*~

17. Heinäkuu 2003, 22:53:32
Radiant2008 :-) 
Otsikko: Re: Bernice and Gubbe: Site Access
This week its terrible! Everytime I try to logon, I have to keep trying and trying to get access the site and once I am on it takes me 30 minutes to play 1 game.. :-( After every move, I most of the time I get the "BrainKing.com - Please wait" site... *big sigh - It looks like it only gets worse...

I thought the paying members got priority in access?

Anyway.. would it be an idea to get time added, everytime you cannot access the site?? Games are running out of time, because I cannot access and/or play them..

Its not our fault that we cannot sign in, so could you please consider to give us back any extra time, Fencer?? :-)

In good Fellowship,
~*Radiant*~

17. Heinäkuu 2003, 22:11:11
Andersp 
Yeah..think Mr Fencer has to do something soon if he wants the site to survive, people are leaving

17. Heinäkuu 2003, 22:06:12
danoschek 
Otsikko: Gubbe
you're right - yesterday and today - a pain in the butt ...
worst ever - even with only 30 players online I was not able
to play 3 moves in row, from 4 pm to 10 pm on wednesday,
today similar ... just 60 players and loading takes decades ... :( ... ~*~

17. Heinäkuu 2003, 22:01:45
Andersp 
Any idea when this site will be fixed?, today was worse than ever to acces it!!..No improvement made since i joined...(PAID!!!!) in march.

17. Heinäkuu 2003, 04:28:20
Dmitri King 
Otsikko: Re: ratings
UIL and Tactician-- I think the number of games played by an opponent should be irrelevant. Why does it matter? Once a player is established, who cares? I think ti is absurd that I gain more opints winning a game against a 2000 player with 50 games than against a 2000 player with 45 games.

16. Heinäkuu 2003, 20:08:48
Fencer 
Otsikko: Re: Ratings- munwest taking the cowards way out.
Nope. BKR is always calculated with the same formula, regardless on the game ending type.

16. Heinäkuu 2003, 20:06:59
colm147 
Otsikko: Ratings- munwest taking the cowards way out.
Is it true that if you lose a game by letting the time run out it effects your BKR less than being checkmated? I ask because one of my opponents (munwest) has realised I have got him in such a position that he can't avoid being caught in checkmate next move, so he tells me he's going to let the time run out rather than let me checkmate him. Does this effect my BKR aswell?

16. Heinäkuu 2003, 18:53:42
Fencer 
You just have to fish around ;-) Better DB system will be added later.

16. Heinäkuu 2003, 18:20:33
Rogue Lion 
Otsikko: Re: re: Test (and another question)
Thanks again BBW! BTW, while I'm here, does anyone know a good way to follow the thread of a message on these boards, or do you just have to fish around?

16. Heinäkuu 2003, 18:15:57
coan.net 
Otsikko: re: Test
Yes, that link works good!

BBW (BIG BAD WOLF)

16. Heinäkuu 2003, 17:45:50
Uil 
Otsikko: Re: ratings
For that you're right, but they don't count the 10 or 20 year old games played by Kortsnoi or Karpov in there actual rating

16. Heinäkuu 2003, 17:03:11
Tactician 
Otsikko: Re: ratings
Well, its not in the formula, but FIDE marks players like that to keep their rating list up-to-date. They don't recalculate the rating or anything just remove it from their Top 100 List. Bobby Fischer still has a 2700+ rating, he just isn't shown on the list.

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