Tuesday: Do you really think an average shmo would get the benefit of the doubt you are providing him?

I'm sure this same rational has been used in countless court proceedings by fat, poor unshaven bus drivers,and they probably didn't have 20 million to pay anybody off

Czuch: I think people sometimes buy into the 'Peter Pan' image he nurtured.If he was fat,unshaven, and drove a bus it would be percieved very differently IMO

Tuesday: I used to jump into bed with my folks when I was a kid,but to my knowledge niether my mom or dad would invite other kids to spend the night in their bedroom

Artful Dodger: Do you get to keep your pension?

Artful Dodger: re:"If it makes you feel any better I now think Bush was an idiot."

If it makes you feel any better,I now think Obama doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to accomplish his mandate

Artful Dodger: re:If this were any Republican President it would be a different story. But Obama is the darling of the press and inspite of the fact that he's running this country down the toilet, consider that those politicians who fully support Obama have been floating in that same toilet, waiting for someone to flush it.


It's good to know the moderator of this board shows such restraint

GTCharlie: It's pretty typical of politicians worldwide.One minute they are depicting the opposition to be satan, the next minute they are sharing dinner.The only time you see unification of cause is when their pension is being discussed.

This news will, and maybe should be met cynically.The man wants to remain employed, but the impact is huge.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/28/specter.party.switch/

Artful Dodger: I accept your apology,it takes a big man to admit he's wrong

Artful Dodger: An argument over semantics.....it was on the Fox News channel, so sorry for all the confusion....oy veh

Artful Dodger: but it DID happen on Fox News.........and the clip was provided to AVOID any confusion as to what was said.......wow, you're too much bud

Artful Dodger: I could not disagree more.You're implying that I would find it less offensive if it was broadcast on any network other than Fox, I find that beyond rude.You don't know me personally, and I don't know you. Do I agree with the typical slant Fox projects? no, but I have pointed out countless times that I don't like slanted news period, and have given other examples such as MSNBC.

Again,I find it very offensive that you would imply that I would gladly park my feelings towards our brave men of the military dependent upon which network broadcasts the story.When this story surfaced I didn't lookat it as a left or right thing, the military is populated by people of all political backgrounds, and I'm sure all were equally offended.I was actually shocked that the source was a Fox broadcast, they usually hold the military in the highest esteem.

Bernice: Frankly my opinion of the allegation directed my way is more important than being moded,it was a cheap personal shot

Artful Dodger: I suggest you refresh yourself on your 'guidlines--

* No 'flaming' - in other words, avoid personal attacks, pettiness, abuse. Respect other users, and if you disagree with them, explain why. Posts that are considered aggressively offensive will be subject to moderation.

This may be your own personally moderated playpen, but accussing me of exploiting lost soldiers is pretty offensive, grow up

Your tasteless assertion logically leads to the assumption that if a network such as MSNBC(which I also find too slanted for my tastes) ,or any other network were to broadcast the same program content I would avoid voicing my disgust at the "comedy"

I'm a proud Canadian, and your dark cynicism is beyond rude

Artful Dodger: HUH?
I'm not sure you haven't had an out of body experience during the progress of the discussion, but it's your board, go nuts

Artful Dodger: re: So for those of you still offended, it's not about you anyway so who cares that you are offended?

You make interesting conclusions based on very limited knowledge.

Czuch: Your opinion is noted, we each have one

(V): I think many who confused(and used) opposition to the Iraq war as opposition to the actual soldiers believe there own propoganda now.

Czuch: I disagree with the "troops" being mocked, those who are put in harms way with no say in their deployment.

It's fairly up to date, including comments from the Canadian defense minister

http://watch.ctv.ca/news/power-play/monday-march-23/#clip153165

Czuch: I personally don't find the mocking of soldiers funny,to each his own.

Charles Martel: Well said, it's all about RESPECT for the troops who have no control over policy.Until your post I've only seen defensive comments towards the network with no acknowledgement of how distasteful the comments were.

(V): The death toll after last week is actually116, but thanks for making a more concise argument than I clearly was capable of

Artful Dodger: You seem to have no problems diiscussing Fox on this board when you feel you have an argument to defend them with.Pulling board protocol in this instance is a cop out don't you think?

It has become a "politica topic" a member of our ruling party has asked for an apology, does that now make it worthy?

Artful Dodger: Oh I've seen more than a few posts that could easily be posted on either the media or politcal board.I've also seen comments on here that have little to do with politics.I understand,you don't wanna touch this topic with a 10 foot pole, it is what it is

Vikings: This isn't about liberal or any other party.The military consists of pretty much every political or religios "slant" on the planet.When you're dodging bullets nobody gives a dang what political party you're in, surely not your commrades in arms

Artful Dodger: I stated what the video was about, I made my point.Clearly you would just rather avoid the issue

Artful Dodger: I think the video speaks for itself.I'm sorry if my point eludes you.Canadian Soldiers are dying along with American soldiers in the same war, to make light of the Canadian military,or their contribution is pretty low brow.

Vikings: Fox News produces it, they own it.I don't care what time of the day or number of viewers the show has,Fox stamps their name on it.

and this is how Fox News respects the Canadian military.........disgusting!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35kBpvxfsc

Quote of the Day

"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline -- it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer."


--Frank Zappa

Tuesday: quite a few

Tuesday: it's not a PBS show,not sure what channel carries it in the USA, it's the funniest show Canada has produced since Kids in the hall and SCTV.......................I just noticed Direct tv in the states has begun airing it

Tuesday: I despise Red Green,but The Trailor Park Boys is excellent..............and both shows are Canadian

Tuesday: 30 Rock is good,but I never keep track of when certain programs are on,except sports.I think all the white noise of nightly watching 4 hours of politicians jabbering at eachother finally caught up with me after 8 years.I've always been interested in Lincoln,I thoroughly enjoyed the PBS presentatio called "Finding Lincoln" last week, Charlie Rose also presents a calm mature discussion

Tuesday: I'm becoming more and more a PBS viewer,I'm fed up with braindead programming.

Obama visits Canada thursday,these are some of the issues on the plate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFVLXK1uWTM

Charles Martel: I'm not sure of your point.Todd and Garrett represent the left and right spectrums of cable news,I don't see how his wanting questions from both these reporters represents anything but fairness

The Usurper: Here is a fairly recent appearance of Griffen with Jones,Nov 08

http://video.google.ca/videosearch?q=David+Ray+Griffin%2Calex+jones&emb=0&aq=f#

Charles Martel: I'm pretty openminded,but Jones lost me a few years ago.Phil Shneider's story is one of the few I find may be legit,he was murdered a number of years ago

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3403113138974316606&hl=en

Artful Dodger: Alex Jones is a conspiracy theory freak, very much on the fringe.I used to get a kick out of him and his website (Prison Planet) but after awhile you learn he thinks everyone including Chef Gordon Ramsey is part of a grand plan of The New World Order.

Artful Dodger: let it fail,and then bash it, this pre emptive jabber is garbage.

Czuch: How can you judge his record one way or the other at this point?

I don't care how you judge his stimulus package, at this point it hasn't had time to fly or flop in its intended forum

Artful Dodger: I thought it was a classic Mel Brooks type skit

Bernice: and only small minds would notice

Artful Dodger: It comes on at 1am,I like to fall asleep listening to it.I don't bring my laptop to the bedroom

Artful Dodger: I've been a C to C addict for over a decade,but since I moved my home is in a radio dead zone.I pick up 640 at about 60% most nights,sometimes not at all

Artful Dodger: Her or Zombie Lady

Artful Dodger: The comment that surprised me,was the high achievment level of adopted kids.I had never though about it,but in reflection,it makes sense.

Artful Dodger: That caller must have been a plant,she sounded hypnotized