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26. Mayo 2004, 21:06:17
kitti 
Better luck next time Stevie :)

26. Mayo 2004, 20:44:08
Stevie 
until Kitti brought me back down to earth with a bump LOL

26. Mayo 2004, 00:52:49
Stevie 
Asunto: Looks like.....
......Ive picked myself back up off the floor at 6x6 and back to 1938 now, all I have to do now is break the 2000 barrier again :o)

4. Mayo 2004, 18:46:16
Stevie 
invites on their way :o)

4. Mayo 2004, 18:44:23
Czuch 
Asunto: Re: I am not happy, lets try the question again
Hey Steve... mabe I could play one with you, while you are down, If I win I will be happy to give ya some advice ;)

4. Mayo 2004, 18:41:04
Stevie 
Asunto: Re: I am not happy, lets try the question again
Since the recent ban from Brainking that I endured, I have come back and just do not seem to be able to get back into rev 6x6 (which was my best game) :o( If anyone who has recently played me has noticed where I am going wrong, I would be grateful for some advice :o)
See these sort of things do affect us,


PS. nice to see some prompt moderating and it included a Customer Service rep for a change

4. Mayo 2004, 18:10:51
Rose 
It was because even after I posted to keep this on topic you still want to keep going. I have asked for it to be moved and I hope you as the others have will cease here.

4. Mayo 2004, 18:05:29
Czuch 
I am sorry Rose...but as you can clearly see, it was Harley who started the off topic discussion... merley was responding to her posted comments. same as I am now responding to your post, even though it is off topic for this board.

I am offended that you have singled me out to be banned for being off topic, and have, for some unknown reason, decided to not warn Harley, who mad more off topic comments than I had...

4. Mayo 2004, 17:40:53
Rose 
IMupChucKing
Please keep it to reversi or sorry you risk being banned from here. This is for reversi discussions only

4. Mayo 2004, 17:39:01
Czuch 
* Edited* off topic

4. Mayo 2004, 17:36:38
Stevie 
I did try to get it back to reversi

4. Mayo 2004, 17:33:10
Rose 
If we could keep the topics to Reversi and it's variants I would appreciate it! Loads of other boards to take the disputes to.
Thanks

4. Mayo 2004, 17:19:15
Stevie 
Asunto: Re: Harley
Other players are much more worthy of my bkr going their way than someone like you


*Edited by me(stevie)50mins later after moderation of board*
Added: This is a reply to the Sarcastic offer of help which looks genuine now the rest has been removed, so not genuine request.

4. Mayo 2004, 17:16:42
Czuch 
Asunto: Re: Steve....
*Edited* Off topic

4. Mayo 2004, 17:15:55
harley 
Poor suffering Steve. Would you like me to help you with your games? Genuine offer :o)

4. Mayo 2004, 17:08:46
Stevie 
Asunto: Re: Steve....
Nope LMAO ;oÞ

can we get back o topic now, once ive sorted my 6x6, Ill start on my other good game that suffered, 5 in line

4. Mayo 2004, 17:00:51
Czuch 
Asunto: Re: Steve....
*Edited* Off topic

4. Mayo 2004, 16:43:38
Stevie 
*Edited* Off topic

4. Mayo 2004, 16:42:19
harley 
*Edited* Off topic

4. Mayo 2004, 16:37:58
Stevie 
*Edited* Off topic

4. Mayo 2004, 16:34:49
harley 
*Edited* Off topic

4. Mayo 2004, 16:18:40
Stevie 
Asunto: I am not happy
Since the recent ban from Brainking that I endured, I have come back and just do not seem to be able to get back into rev 6x6 (which was my best game) :o( If anyone who has recently played me has noticed where I am going wrong, I would be grateful for some advice :o)
See these sort of things do affect us, so all I can do is blame others for it

27. Abril 2004, 23:59:34
LongJohn GZ 
it might be worthwhile having Fencer check his ip address against other users. May be a multi id

27. Abril 2004, 23:55:03
Rose 
Chess master wrote me an apology message this evening. He felt bad and didnt realize he said that it was wrong to use an analizing program to help out in games. He said he wants the game between us deleted as well ( fencer can you do that please? Confirm with chessmaster1000 on this) I have offered up another game to chessmaster saying I want to play him without him using any programs, I will make it 10x10. I appreciate that he is trying to make amends for his actions!

27. Abril 2004, 23:07:20
LongJohn GZ 
it is possible I will win a million dollars in the lottery tomorrow

27. Abril 2004, 21:45:46
harley 
LOL could well be, LJ! I do believe everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt when possible. If he continues to use the programme over and over without telling anyone (and the better players here can always tell), THEN would be the time for harsh judgement.
Stevie, I have thought about it, and of course its possible. But its also possible that he's a genuine guy who made a mistake without realising.

27. Abril 2004, 20:54:22
LongJohn GZ 
you pulled it in just in time LOL
But I think you are really giving him an incredible amount of BOTD (benefit of the doubt)
Must be the mother coming out in you :)

27. Abril 2004, 20:53:35
Stevie 
Have you thought about this...
...Was knowing what he was doing,
Then gets caught out and has to admit it, unfortunately to someone who will say how it is and warn people etc etc instead of cower in the corner not saying anything or standing up for them for no reason.
So then comes up with a planned get out line of.....I didnt know it wasnt allowed..

27. Abril 2004, 20:28:54
harley 
Well he has said that he didn't realise it wasn't allowed here. I guess for all he knew the majority of players he was against also used programmes. I don't know the guy and have never played him, but I feel he is being judged a bit harshly. He wasn't aware of the feelings about programmes, and has said he will make his opponent aware in future if he wishes to use one. Ratings will even out again and there doesn't seem much harm done. Everyone makes mistakes, he's admitted his and is willing to not make them again in future play.
I'll pull my head back in now!

27. Abril 2004, 20:25:41
LongJohn GZ 
looks to me like he really was trying to take credit and feel good about the win using a program and that it made him feel superior to you. Sounds like it could possibly be an inferiority complex to me. Maybe IYT would be better for him.

27. Abril 2004, 20:14:04
Rose 
That's true too.
I just would have liked the option to know he was using aprogram when we played. I didnt know until he had won an basically admitted it and then said I was good but he was better. Not amused. Some people take their chess seriously, I take my reversi very seriously. I am hoping that game is deleted from the records!

27. Abril 2004, 20:13:15
LongJohn GZ 
Dammit Steve, please say something I disagree with, this is becoming a little too common

27. Abril 2004, 20:10:31
Stevie 
We have a rating system here, it wouldnt be good if the players at the top, were there not by their own doing, holding genuine players off of being up there

27. Abril 2004, 20:06:50
Rose 
I was duped as were others who played him this week and I would like to see his wins taken away. I work hard at my reversi rating and I am not happy that a cheat program was used to kick my butt. Can't help that sorry.

27. Abril 2004, 20:02:50
harley 
I see your point LongJohn :o) I really do.
But I do think as long as he states before the start of the game that he may use a programme - and his opponent agrees - then its ok. Anyone here may be using a programme without his/her opponent knowing. At least this guy is upfront about it. But I can see why it causes anger too.

27. Abril 2004, 19:59:08
LongJohn GZ 
may as well save money on your internet connection and play the proggy on your own computer instead if you are gonna do that

27. Abril 2004, 19:57:53
Rose 
And make sure someone suggests to Filip to please add in his list of rules that using programs to play is a form of cheating and therefore not allowed.
I don't wanna play anyone whos using a program I can tell u that.. why bother playing when you know a program is going to beat you?

27. Abril 2004, 19:51:08
LongJohn GZ 
sorry Harley but honestly, you have a valid point but I cannot agree here. He has openly admitted to resorting to a program when "the going gets tough" No matter how someone defends themselves, that is point blank cheating. We will have to agree to disagree on this one I am afraid

27. Abril 2004, 19:48:31
harley 
I think the guy sounds genuine enough. He has explained his position, on which he's actually right, there isn't anything specific in the rules about using programmes.
He's also said from now on he'll inform his opponent that he may use a programme. What more can you ask? He's been very open and upfront in my opinion. Give him a break!

27. Abril 2004, 19:28:54
LongJohn GZ 
what is "retaehc" spelt backwards?

27. Abril 2004, 19:25:45
Stevie 
Thats what I dont like, I was also told "I dont like to lose" so the programme is so they dont have losses by genuine players :o(

I dont think they realise that Logistello is Arnie LOL

27. Abril 2004, 17:01:43
LongJohn GZ 
Asunto: Re: As the bottom line says, they want this broadcast
LOL
Quote from below
when i have doubts i open the program i've created and see the moves it's suggests

In other words, when I am stumped and not doing so well I will let the computer take over.

27. Abril 2004, 13:39:08
Stevie 
Asunto: As the bottom line says, they want this broadcast
From: Chessmaster1000
Date and time: 27. April 2004, 12:28:54
Subject: Hello.

Well, i saw the discussion about me on Reversi 8x8 boards about cheating by using a program. Well the truth is that i play the game by myself and when i have doubts i open the program i've created and see the moves it's suggests. I didn't know this is forbidden here so i've done it many times. Not always. So it's not a case of cheating but a case of ignorance. I even saw a player called logistello and i wondered if he was using logistello.
Since the games here are in a correspondence form i thought using a program for the best possible play was legal. It seems that's not the case.
But i haven't seen anywhere in the FAQ's that using a program is not allowed, so it seemed to me perfectly logical to use a program.

Anyway from now on, i would inform the opponent before the game, that (s)he is going to play with a human and possibly with a computer. I say possibly, as in not all of my games, i played with the help of my program. And if he accepts this OK. If not, again OK. So everything is fine.

As for my Reversi 8x8 BKR, the moderators can't do everything they want. As i can't write to the Reversi discussion board, could you please tranfer these, for letting the moderator to know?

27. Abril 2004, 11:56:47
Stevie 
Asunto: Re: 6x6 Ladder
But only 3 have signed up so far LOL

27. Abril 2004, 03:26:42
rod03801 
kd5svqJT: with Brainking 2.0

27. Abril 2004, 02:16:33
LongJohn GZ 
Asunto: 6x6 Ladder
Seems that Steve and I have broken away from the pack and sit atop in 1st and 2nd in the Reversi 6x6 ladder

27. Abril 2004, 02:16:13
kd5svqJT 
Asunto: best BKR and positions
does anyone know when best BKR and positions will come back on?

27. Abril 2004, 01:59:58
Logistello 
Murakami was at the time the best human player in the world, who won the world title that year, though he didn't have it all his own way and almost fell to the sucker punch of Garry Edmead.

27. Abril 2004, 01:53:59
LongJohn GZ 
I wonder how it would fair against Chessmaster1000?
LOL

27. Abril 2004, 01:52:22
Logistello 
I decided to rename myself after my favourite othello program. I am a fan of it because I just love the way it humiliated Takeshi Murakami in 1996.

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