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2. Noviembre 2012, 20:35:41
The Col 
Asunto: It's one thing to lie about Obama .........
Modificado por The Col (2. Noviembre 2012, 20:38:23)
By Bernie Woodall

DETROIT, Nov 1 (Reuters) - A Chrysler executive told Donald Trump in a Tweet on Thursday that the real estate executive and television personality was "full of ****" for repeating a notion that Chrysler is shipping U.S. Jeep production to China, which the automaker refutes.

Ralph Gilles, the head of product design for Chrysler, became the second top Chrysler executive in three days to strongly deny the claim, which was first made by Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney last week to a crowd in Ohio.

Trump, from his Twitter account, said, "Obama is a terrible negotiator. He bails out Chrysler and now Chrysler wants to send all Jeep manufacturing to China--and will!"

To which Gilles, from his Twitter account, responded to Trump: "You are full of ****!"

In a second Tweet, Gilles added: "I apologize for my language, but lies are just that, lies."

On Tuesday, Chrysler Group LLC Chief Executive Sergio Marchionne, in an e-mail to employees, also flatly denied Romney's claim.

"I feel obliged to unambiguously restate our position: Jeep production will not be moved from the United States to China," Marchionne wrote.

Romney, speaking a week ago to a crowd in Defiance, Ohio, said that he had read a news article that said Chrysler's Jeep brand is considering moving "all production to China."

Jeep, Chrysler's global brand, has three U.S. assembly plants, including one in Toledo, Ohio. The others are in Illinois and in Detroit.

2. Noviembre 2012, 16:50:13
Mort 
Asunto: Re: Two teenage boys retrieved a jar of peanut butter each, and got in line. When it was their turn, they handed their “donations” to Romney. He took them, smiled, and offered an earnest “Thank you.”
The Col: .... baby kissing style.

Thank God us Brits don't fall for that bs anymore!

1. Noviembre 2012, 22:59:07
The Col 
As the East Coast and parts of Ohio struggled to regroup in the devastating wake of “Superstorm” Sandy, the Romney campaign hastily transformed a scheduled victory rally in Dayton, Ohio into a non-political “storm relief event” on Tuesday. According to BuzzFeed, the campaign encouraged supporters to bring hurricane relief supplies and “deliver the bags of canned goods, packages of diapers, and cases of water bottles to the candidate, who would be perched behind a table along with a slew of volunteers and his Ohio right-hand man, Senator Rob Portman.”
Just to be safe, campaign aides reportedly spent $5,000 at a local Wal-Mart on supplies that could be put on display. When supporters arrived at the rally-turned-relief event, they were treated to the 10-minute video about Romney’s life, which was first unveiled at the RNC. The event ended with supporters lined up to hand over supplies and meet Romney. But according to BuzzFeed, this donation process was also staged:
Empty-handed supporters pled for entrance, with one woman asking, “What if we dropped off our donations up front?”
The volunteer gestured toward a pile of groceries conveniently stacked near the candidate. “Just grab something,” he said.
Two teenage boys retrieved a jar of peanut butter each, and got in line. When it was their turn, they handed their “donations” to Romney. He took them, smiled, and offered an earnest “Thank you.”
The Red Cross, meanwhile, said they were grateful for the supplies but encouraged people to donate money or blood as a more efficient way to help the relief effort

1. Noviembre 2012, 22:13:47
Iamon lyme 
What we know now about the Benghazi attack is astonishing. We know at least three requests for help were denied. Hillary was the first to make such a request... it was based on what she knew about Al Qaeda amassing forces and getting ready to attack the embassay.

Everyone at the highest levels knew this was coming. Then after it was over a video story is concocted to make it look like no one saw this coming, and we are expected to believe nothing could have been done about it... a protest mob spontaniously erupts into violence, so there was no time to respond. We now know this was a lie, a fabricated story to replace the true account of what really happened. But I still can't understand why the president did nothing to help. If he had said yes go help them, get them out there immediately, then when the story got out he would look like a hero... granted, an armchair hero, but it certainly wouldn't hurt his standing with the voters THIS close to the election. Instead, all he does is watch the 7 hour assault and murder of four people from a surveillance drone.

Until we find out exactly why the president rejected at least three urgent requests for help, then none of this makes any sense. Even after the attack started we had fighter jets stationed in Italy waiting for the order to go, and two groups of operatives stationed near the embassay waiting for a go order... but again, nothing.

All Obama had to do was say go for it, get our people out of there. There must be something he is afraid of more than doing the right thing and looking like a hero. This is something I know I'll have to wait to find out, after what I'm sure will be a lengthly investigation. Even the Democrats in congress want to know what the hell was going on, why did he just simply sit and watch 7 hours of battle taking place without doing one thing to stop it? Did he think he watching a movie, or that it was only a video game?

1. Noviembre 2012, 21:42:52
Mort 

1. Noviembre 2012, 21:34:15
Mort 

1. Noviembre 2012, 21:15:56
Mort 
Asunto: Re: Clearly he has little respect for the intelligence of the voters
The Col: Indeed.. flipping since this .. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJG75FJkjr8 ... has never been performed so well.

Both candidates seem to miss any mention of gun control. Guess saying people should be limited to buying under 1000 rounds at a time is just too much!!

1. Noviembre 2012, 19:13:02
The Col 
Asunto: Re: Less than a week to go, but there is still time for the president to pull one more boneheaded stunt before the election.
(V): i don't see how the term "flip flopper" can ever be used again after he transformed it into an artistic form of expression.I don't know who is going to win the election, but the precedent he has set for changing his positions will change how future candidates run in the future.Clearly he has little respect for the intelligence of the voters

1. Noviembre 2012, 19:02:40
Mort 
Asunto: Re: Less than a week to go, but there is still time for the president to pull one more boneheaded stunt before the election.
The Col: That remind me of Mitten when a journalist asked him about the corporate support he gets and what influence it exerts on him.

... He said he didn't get influenced and that was it!! Really, that was it. That it was it had to be made clear several times, and that was it.

It was also made clear by his staff that Mitt did not appreciate such questions, and that was it.

1. Noviembre 2012, 18:51:44
Mort 
Asunto: Re: Will a SWAT Team Invade Your Business?
Modificado por Mort (1. Noviembre 2012, 19:03:14)
Artful Dodger:

“Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with the tactics, the constitutional rights of citizens who work in these businesses, yet have nothing to do with the financial transactions of the owners, have been undeserved victims of these frightening raids… unlawfully detained for hours, intimidated, interrogated without the presence of a lawyer and their personal property confiscated.”

... so in the end through lack of evidence, yet another fraudster who's put the jobs of the staff in jeopardy will go onto another company and do the same. Yeah.. we've seen it done here. Staff screwed, creditors not paid and the directors just set up the business under a different name.

... but it's ok to water board.. sorry interrogate a non American? I don't see them being quite in the same ball park some how.. Are the staff being water boarded???

1. Noviembre 2012, 18:47:07
The Col 
Asunto: Re: Less than a week to go, but there is still time for the president to pull one more boneheaded stunt before the election.
(V): "I'm not familiar precisely with what I said, but I'll stand by what I said, whatever it was." —Mitt Romney (May 17, 2012)

1. Noviembre 2012, 15:43:10
Papa Zoom 
America under Obama and Eric Holder

Will a SWAT Team Invade Your Business?<span>

<span>by <span>Gary DeMar


1. Noviembre 2012, 15:22:48
Mort 
Asunto: Re: Less than a week to go, but there is still time for the president to pull one more boneheaded stunt before the election.
The Col: One wonders if it's gonna be another Bush job if he gets elected.. or worse... RaYgUn.

My fav Romney quotes at the mo...

"I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love"

"My dad, as you probably know, was the governor of Michigan and was the head of a car company. But he was born in Mexico... and had he been born of, uh, Mexican parents, I'd have a better shot at winning this. But he was unfortunately born to Americans living in Mexico. He lived there for a number of years. I mean, I say that jokingly, but it would be helpful to be Latino." -Mitt Romney, in leaked comments from a Florida fundraiser, May 17 2012

1. Noviembre 2012, 15:16:42
Mort 
Asunto: Re:
Artful Dodger:<span><span> Shame your party wouldn't approve the funds wanted by those in Obama's admin.

By <me> and lots of others.

1. Noviembre 2012, 10:07:10
The Col 
Asunto: Re: Less than a week to go, but there is still time for the president to pull one more boneheaded stunt before the election.
(V): It backfired on him, the car companies are calling him out, he would have been better off keeping his mouth shut

1. Noviembre 2012, 01:20:40
Papa Zoom 

1. Noviembre 2012, 01:14:07
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: The death penalty deserved.

1. Noviembre 2012, 00:36:52
Mort 
Asunto: Re: Less than a week to go, but there is still time for the president to pull one more boneheaded stunt before the election.
The Col: Mitt's relying on Chinese whispers!!??!!

31. Octubre 2012, 23:08:54
The Col 
Asunto: Re: Less than a week to go, but there is still time for the president to pull one more boneheaded stunt before the election.
(V): The Toledo Blade reports on the latest turn of the screw in the auto-related debate that has overshadowed the final week of the race in Ohio:

Chrysler Chief Executive Sergio Marchionne circulated an email to Chrysler Group LLC employees today strongly restating the automaker's promise that it will not move existing U.S. production of Jeeps to China.

In the email, Mr. Marchionne said he felt obligated to again address the company's production plans over continuing "public debate."

The note did not directly reference politics or the presidential election, but Chrysler's plans for Jeep have become a major political talking point over the past week, especially in Ohio. Speaking in Defiance last week, Republican candidate Mitt Romney seized on a misrepresentation of a Bloomberg story, suggesting that Chrysler was considering moving existing Jeep production to China.

Romney has stuck with the Jeep-related line of attack against Obama, though in a modified form that only implies — rather than stating explicitly — that Chrysler might move jobs from Ohio to China. It's a decision that has puzzled Republicans both in and outside Ohio: after letting Obama dominate the auto-bailout debate on the airwaves for months, Romney has re-engaged the auto fight at the last minute on less-than-firm footing, with an attack that now has Chrysler weighing in against him.

31. Octubre 2012, 21:31:35
Mort 
Asunto: Re: Less than a week to go, but there is still time for the president to pull one more boneheaded stunt before the election.
Iamon lyme: Or in Mittens' case... 10.

31. Octubre 2012, 21:20:00
Iamon lyme 
Less than a week to go, but there is still time for the president to pull one more boneheaded stunt before the election.

The Benghazi story is not likely to go away or fizzle out like Fast and Furious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t82D8QT4TPs&feature=relmfu

31. Octubre 2012, 20:43:37
Mort 

31. Octubre 2012, 15:31:42
Papa Zoom 

31. Octubre 2012, 15:28:15
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Perhaps Obama will end up in jail over this.

31. Octubre 2012, 01:21:27
Papa Zoom 

30. Octubre 2012, 23:28:40
Mort 
Asunto: Re: Zomney
The Col: I hope it's old style shambling zombies.. But the questions leads to where... China, who is screwing up their eco system. Or India, where kids recycle e waste in conditions that the word toxic is an understatement.

If an American was told to work in the same way.. they'd be able to retire from the proceeds of the court case.

30. Octubre 2012, 23:01:03
The Col 
Asunto: Zomney

30. Octubre 2012, 22:00:35
Iamon lyme 
6 tips on how to handle office politics

Consider this: Almost two-thirds of workers interviewed by Robert Half International said involvement in office politics is at least somewhat necessary to get ahead today. The key is to remain attuned to workplace dynamics without getting drawn into power struggles or playing petty games.

Here's a rundown of some of the most prevalent political players in the office, along with tips for working with them:

The Gossip Hound. This person loves spreading rumors and can often be found hovering around the water cooler, speculating about sensitive issues. Keep your distance from the Gossip Hound and don't say anything you wouldn't say to someone directly. Although this person may provide accurate or relevant information on occasion, that's not reason enough to allow yourself to be pulled into corrosive conversations.

The Credit Thief. This individual loves the spotlight and relishes taking credit for other people's work. When something goes wrong, the Credit Thief is nowhere to be seen.

When collaborating with this person, document your contributions and provide regular updates to your supervisor so he is aware of your work. Don't hesitate to correct misperceptions about who did what.

The Sycophant. "Shameless" is this person's middle name. She will offer excessive flattery to anyone who is in a position of power, ignoring anyone below the highest levels.

Although it may be hard to watch, don't sweat the Sycophant's tactics. Most managers can see through this type of person. Also be sure to give kudos to deserving individuals, regardless of their position.

If the Sycophant displays a sudden shift in attitude toward you, be wary. She could be buttering you up for a favor.

The Saboteur. Watch your back when working with this person, who loves to play the blame game and make others look bad. Limit your interaction with this master manipulator, and don't back down if the Saboteur's tactics become apparent. Often, he will retreat when confronted.

The Lobbyist. The Lobbyist is passionate about her projects and ways of doing things. This individual advocates strongly for support but is often unreceptive to outside points of view.

When collaborating with the Lobbyist on projects, be aware of the agenda she is pushing, and be willing to stand up for your ideas.

The Adviser. The office's most influential people aren't always the most high-ranking or high-profile employees. For example, this professional is often closely aligned with an executive and serves as his eyes and ears. Develop a good rapport with the Adviser because he could have a direct line to the top.

How you handle sensitive workplace dynamics can make or break your professional prospects. But navigating office politics doesn't have to be complex. More than anything, it simply involves common sense, courtesy and compromise. Showcase your savvy by carefully observing your office environment -- and the players who make up the scene -- without getting mired in political pitfalls.

For more advice on keeping a positive political tone at work, download this free career guide: "How to Navigate Office Politics: Your Guide to Getting Ahead" at www.roberthalf.com/bloopers.

30. Octubre 2012, 10:42:02
Mort 
Asunto: Re: social lesson
Vikings: It's fearful... how? Reality check fearful.. or just because it's uncomfortable to hear??

30. Octubre 2012, 00:26:47
Vikings 
Asunto: social lesson
this is how a liberal thinks

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/pro-obama-ad-has-children-singing-about-an-america-where-sick-people-just-die-oil-fills-the-sea/


And they have the nerve to call conservatives "fear mongers"

29. Octubre 2012, 23:32:36
Mort 

29. Octubre 2012, 23:30:38
Mort 

29. Octubre 2012, 23:28:59
Mort 
Modificado por Mort (29. Octubre 2012, 23:30:47)

29. Octubre 2012, 23:28:16
Mort 

29. Octubre 2012, 23:26:32
Iamon lyme 
Uh ohhhh! Don't look now, but I do believe someone wishes to have a word with you...

29. Octubre 2012, 23:21:25
Mort 

29. Octubre 2012, 23:16:06
Mort 

29. Octubre 2012, 23:14:15
Mort 

29. Octubre 2012, 23:06:58
Iamon lyme 
Asunto: Re: IF you're a gay conservative, be prepared for some serious gay bashing from your friends on the LEFT. Liberals only like gays who conform.
Artful Dodger: Don't bother me, I'm very sleepy and have immersed meself in a study of network analysis pertaining to historical relevance of past events (((((i.e. the 60's))))) as may potentially relate to today's presently warming political climate change and hope this won't take too long because it's all I can do right now to keep my eye lids up and peepers in focus.

29. Octubre 2012, 20:43:54
Iamon lyme 
Obama is a zero,
He is no wartime hero;
And as Allah is his witness
He is working to deplete us

29. Octubre 2012, 19:59:47
Mort 

29. Octubre 2012, 16:28:25
Iamon lyme 
Nero was a zero,
he was no big shot hero;
he thought he was a winner,
but I say he's a wiener.

29. Octubre 2012, 14:23:58
Mort 
Asunto: Re: an irrelevant distraction because he can't find examples where those on the Right behave in the same hateful, violent, bigoted ways as those on the Left!
Artful Dodger: Dan.. If you believe that... you've forgotten how the Bible states "even the righteous sin".

Shall I find for you all the death threats Kevin Smith had over making the film "Dogma" by Christians, thinking they are being righteous in the Lord's name.


29. Octubre 2012, 14:18:49
Mort 
Asunto: Re: happenings by the Right that parallel the vile acts of the Left
Artful Dodger: Like the BNP leader leaking an address of two gay guys, so a 'demonstration can be held by white Christians (I use that word only as the label they use) outside.

.. How Christians "think" they can convert gay people as gay people are not gay, just .. not listening to God.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sW5yq9mzSs

Dr Bachmann considers gay people barbarians!!

How do you feel about straightening?

29. Octubre 2012, 05:44:25
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re: IF you're a gay conservative, be prepared for some serious gay bashing from your friends on the LEFT. Liberals only like gays who conform.
Silvery Moon: Well he likes to wake up in the morning to a post or two of mine that he can debunk.

29. Octubre 2012, 05:18:26
Mrs Moon 
Asunto: Re: IF you're a gay conservative, be prepared for some serious gay bashing from your friends on the LEFT. Liberals only like gays who conform.
Artful Dodger: Did you ever think V might have better things to do than talk to YOu?? Like Sleep for instance he's from the Uk so I would expect he's sleeping LoL

29. Octubre 2012, 03:49:59
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re: IF you're a gay conservative, be prepared for some serious gay bashing from your friends on the LEFT. Liberals only like gays who conform.
Iamon lyme: lol it's only an irrelevant distraction because he can't find examples where those on the Right behave in the same hateful, violent, bigoted ways as those on the Left!

29. Octubre 2012, 00:24:10
Iamon lyme 
Asunto: Re: IF you're a gay conservative, be prepared for some serious gay bashing from your friends on the LEFT. Liberals only like gays who conform.
Artful Dodger: [ show me where there is such wide spread abuses from the Right. ]

Maybe later. He's studying past history at the moment and can't be bothered by irrelevant distractions. There is a time for discussion, and a time for study...


Uh oh ... Sensing fits of laughter surfacing within meself, so I shall be excusing meself as well.

29. Octubre 2012, 00:18:18
Papa Zoom 
Asunto: Re: No but it does seem like you are making excuses for the bad behavior of those on the Left.
(V): Well what I am doing is pointing out the VERY BAD behavior of the Left that is being IGNORED by the MSM because they are in the Left's pockets. AND since there is no one pointing out any CURRENT happenings by the Right that parallel the vile acts of the Left, I guess we're ONLY talking about the Left. If you want to drag the Right into this, let's see some hard CURRENT evidence.

I'll be waiting.

28. Octubre 2012, 23:38:12
Mort 
Asunto: Re: If it's not "less bad", then you should have no trouble finding examples to match what AD has shown.
Iamon lyme: True.. I wouldn't if could be bothered to google them. TYT usually has plenty of such cases. But hey... I don't need to, for only a complete lunatic would actually argue that there are those on the right who don't do the same thing..

... when everyone who seriously looks at politics knows it does.

I'm more interested in looking at some older history at the moment. How the French helping the American revolution bankrupted the French and led to the French revolution...

40,000 died by the guillotine, one lot of revolutionaries denouncing the last lot and so on...eventually leading to the military taking over via Napoleon.

.. how the man who invented the small pox vaccine has saved more lives than any other person in history.

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