rabbitoid: I think this was discussed a long time ago... That would surely change the strategy from where it is now. I quit playing for a long while after the first ratings came out, because I had played for wins in the begining and had quite a few of them, then the ratings came out and I was discouraged to find out that people who had no wins yet placed 4th or 5th a lot had better ratings than I did! Now that I am playing again, I have only one win, but I am top 5 in every game so far, and my rating is climbing steadily. I guess if you can learn how to do both, get wins and be in the top 5 when you lose, you will be top ranked BKR for sure!
Vikes I gues you are correct, I am always happy if I finish and everyone who beats me is higher ranked than myself...
It would be nice if we could set games for BKR ratings!
Czuch Chuckers: As I always understood the game it is about winning. Any system that gives anything to a second place goes against the spirit of the game. When you're splashing, it doesn't matter if you fell in on the first round or the last - youu're just as wet!
so basically if the people in front of me average lower than the peopel in back of me when i finish high i will not gain as many points. if the opposite was the case id prolly gain many more points? So i guess its averaged in some way. Impossibel to really research since peopel are constantly running in ponds. Thanks for the explaination peeps.
Nothingness: It also depends as to what your rating is, in this scenerio if you have a high rating, say 2100 or more, you would probably lose points for 5th, if you had a low rating,say 1700, would probably gain just a few points, I think this may not have been the best example as rating were very low and it is rare to have 1600 and 1900 finish 1-2
well depends what rating the other players have who are in the pond ,if most of them are below you you wont get as many points for a win or second place but if there are some with high rankings that fall in before you you will earn more points , it will be more complex than that but thats the general idea .
well i am sure that this has been answered already many times over but ill ask it again. b/c i rarely come to the discussion boards. How are teh points for ponds dipursed for your placing in each pond. some ponds i get more for 1st others i get more for 2nd the points vary greatly from 10 pts to 300 pts.. what is the mathmatical formula that is used for ponds?
rod03801: Accurate isn't the right word there. Unless one is calculated incorrectly, they're both accurate, but let's not quibble... ;-)
Sounds like a good oppourtunity for a wager! I'd think that betting the median of the previous round would be better in general than betting the mean with the highs & lows eliminated. But, generally, I think one can stay below either average in the early rounds and build up a lead strong enough that the 'average' bidder would get into trouble sooner or later anyway, especially in larger ponds.
Of course I'm only rated 1642, so what do I know. ;-)
Thad: Well, it was a case where in my mind I was rewording what I was typing, and was careless and didn't go to the beginning of the sentence and adjust it.
Median still wouldn't be as accurate, just my opinion.
I personally refigure the average eliminating the highest and lowest bid when they go out of wack with the rest. I think that is probably a little better than the median. Median will probably often give similar results, but not a lot of the time.
1) Could you make the headings at the top of the colums clickable so we can sort the player list by name, points bet in the last round, etc.? At times, I would really like to see the last round sorted by how much was bet by each player.
2) I assume the average you list is the mean (all the bets added up and divided by the number of remaining players). When one (or more) players make a bet that is way off from the others, then this statistic is less meaningful. A better 'average' would be the median. Median is the bet in the middle (or the mean of the pair in the middle if there are an even number of items). Could you add the median to the items that are reported?
It is great that we can have fellowship only pond runs now. The problem is finding enough people to sign up! Even in my ponds plus fellowship with 70 or so members it hard to get even 16 people for any one run! Some people only will play longer runs, somepeople only play fast ones etc.
Could we please be able to create smaller runs with say 8 o 10 or 12 people? And have the starting points reduced as well to correspond with fewer players?
Ponds Plus Fellowship open call for new members! We have many great fellowship only ponds and other fellowship games as well.
We dont allow suspected cheats into this fellowship, so you can play your ponds without fear of being cheated by colluders! Also a great forum to learn how to play better and other great tips and ideas!
BIG BAD WOLF: my god LOLOL....I sure wouldnt want to read this board from the start to learn how to play or get tips....best way is as Vikings says...just try and learn from watching others or just give it a go....it is easy to learn really.
But dont follow me....Im hopeless hahahaha
Rambo37: you are correct, only the lowest is eleminated each round, the trick is to bid just higher than that. You can also get a bonus of 500 points for having the highest bid but you really don't want to bid more than 500 points higher than the lowest bid because you don't gain anything. you also have to remember that your 20,000 points has to last you the entire game. Bids usually increase each round for example a bid of 45 may fall in the 1st round, 86 the 2nd, 135 the 3rd, 278 the 4th and so on(these were only examples) what I suggest is that you look at the ratings page http://brainking.com/en/Ratings?tp=1000 and pick out higher rated players that have played quite a few ponds and then join a pond that has moves at 1 day and study how they they bid. To get you to last at least 5 rounds you could bid 74,130, 150, 330,and 700. These wouldn't probably put you near 1st place but they are safe bids so you can study them. This is a game that takes a little time to get used to, be patient and good luck.
Can anyone explain how PONDS WORKS please,I beleive only the lowest number is eliminated,but what is the hishest number you can select.Are there any other things i should know other than stick to snakes n ladders..............R37