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5. May 2015, 09:18:23
pgt 
Subject: Re: L O N G L O N G Tournamentys
beach: Thank you for your homily. You will see from my profile that I joined this site about 2 weeks after you did, and have been playing here for a little over 12 years. During that time I have had a paid membership for about three years, and informed Fencer that I would renew my paid membership when he implemented a sensible autopass feature in BG. Sadly, his response was "can't be bothered" so hence I have declined to renew my paid membership. Before you tell me that there is an autopass feature, think about how much better it COULD be.

I am not actually fussed about winning or losing the tournament. As I said, I am 75 years old now, and if it goes on for another 5 years, I might well be dead, and then it will take another 7 years or so for me to time out before the next round can begin. In the end the winner will be the player who outlives all the others! What a great result THAT would be!! I am NOT upset, and it is not restricting me from playing and enjoying games. It just seems to me that taking NINE years to complete a Backgammon tournament, whatever the parameters, is just bloody ridiculous.

If less people are signing up for tournaments, maybe this is one of the reasons!

5. May 2015, 07:22:47
Hrqls 
Subject: long lasting tournaments
the problem with this tournament for pgt is that he is a pawn (free) member which only allows 1 ongoing tournament

so while this tournament is not finished, he cannot join any other tournament, unless he purchases a membership

i understand his reasons not to buy a membership (read his profile), but there always 2 sides to something.

to solve the issue i think you can ask fencer to be removed from the tournament, but i am not sure if that solves it

a better solution would be to allow new tournaments for pawn players who cannot win the current running tournament anymore, and who have played all their games, as technically they arent in the tournament anymore

but requires some development :-)

5. May 2015, 02:38:03
ThunderGr 
pgt: Those players play according to the tournament's time controls. When you signed up to the tournament, you knew the time controls. The fact that you have finished your games, along with the majority of the players and they have not, does not give you the right to violate your agreement with the time controls at the expense of your rivals. What you suggest is unethical and I am sorry if you cannot understand it.

As a final reminder, this is a game site. You play games for enjoyment. You can resign any game at anytime if you no longer enjoy playing it.

As beach said, there are far more important things in life than getting upset because a tournament has not finished when you deem it should have.

5. May 2015, 01:02:05
beach 
Subject: Re: L O N G L O N G Tournamentys


pgt: everyone plays tournaments differently why are you upset about that tournament, I searched for it and couldn't find it.  ThunderGR is correct.  I have a tournament I am playing in that has been running for 10 years. A cloning backgammon 15 game tournament it had a 7 day time limit. Anyone playing in his type of tournament should not expect it to end quickly it won't. Nothing anyone can do about how a person chooses to play.  Most people play 3 day tournaments they might be slow by your standard but they are not my most peoples.   Some people like to play one or 2 tournaments and that's it other enjoy playing several. Some people like to make several moves in the same game in one day, others like to play several tournaments within the time frame set out. Everyone who is a paying member is capable of setting up time limits that they like to play.  Tournaments today are not the same as they were a few years ago here.  Its different now, not the same type of players either.  I play much different now then I did a few years ago.  Anyone you takes the time to set up a tournament (and I am glad that they do)  can tell you there are far less people signing up for tournaments and often its hard to get the minimum amount of players.  Only the most popular like backgammon  and ludo will get players.  There are several tournaments that  I see which are what I call superfast 1 and 2 with bonus clock.  Those are for people who want a tournament to end quickly. Myself  I know that these people want people who like to makes several moves in the same game in one day.  I choose not to sign up for those.  There is one person here who  sets them up regularly I am sure you would enjoy his tournaments.

This is a game site, try not to let it upset you, there are far more important things in life.   Well I have said my rant for the evening back to playing a few games  




4. May 2015, 23:20:06
pgt 
Subject: Re: L O N G L O N G Tournamentys
ThunderGr: "There is nothing anybody can do about it" - What rubbish!! There is PLENTY people could do about it if they had the will. If you had said "There is nothing we feel like doing anything about" I would have believed you.

"It is all about what most people enjoy best." - I think I am speaking for all of the people who have already qualified for the next round, and most of them several YEARS ago, that they are "most people" in your context, and I am sure that they would "enjoy best" to delete the two players who are holding things up, and get on with the tournament. The two players holding up the tournament are not "most people".
Reply

4. May 2015, 14:45:34
ThunderGr 
Subject: Re: L O N G L O N G Tournamentys
Modified by ThunderGr (4. May 2015, 14:46:18)

pgt: I understand your problem. However, since people do not like participating in tournaments with fast or superfast time controls, there is nothing anyone can do about it. It is all about what most people enjoy best.

4. May 2015, 09:27:05
pgt 
Subject: L O N G L O N G Tournamentys
GoodFoods' 6th Broiling Backgammon Invitational (Backgammon)
It's 9 (NINE - that's NINE) YEARS (yese, not weeks or days - YEARS since the first round of this tournament and there are still two players playing THE FIRST RFOUND!!!

3. May 2015, 11:33:03
DeaD man WalkiN 
Subject: Need just 1 more to start
Crowded Backgammon need 1
Battleboats Plus need 1
Sphere Froglet need 1
Knight Fight need 1

DeaD Man's GaMeS to StarT MaY 1

2. May 2015, 17:52:18
ThunderGr 
Subject: New tournament
Modified by ThunderGr (2. May 2015, 17:53:05)

Superfast Cloning Backgammon Tournament

Recommended to frequent and quick players only.

27. April 2015, 22:11:50
Antje 
Modified by Antje (27. April 2015, 22:12:45)
New tourney to sign up for in The Sunshine Club!
The Sunshine Club (27. April 2015, 16:08:00)

24. April 2015, 14:13:16
beach 
Subject: quck start tournament
  All welcome  new tourney to start on Sunday   Beaches April Games

24. April 2015, 10:16:20
Crosseyed Mary 
Subject: Re: re tournament
beach: I have signed up with no problems.

24. April 2015, 10:13:27
beach 
Subject: re tournament
So sorry if I caused any problems here I was just doing a favour

23. April 2015, 19:14:32
ThunderGr 
Subject: Re: looking for players
Modified by ThunderGr (23. April 2015, 19:14:50)
Aganju: 2160 for Doris. The message is perfectly clear and so are the messages when you do not fulfill other requirements.

23. April 2015, 19:10:47
Aganju 
Subject: Re: looking for players
Modified by Aganju (23. April 2015, 19:11:22)
Doris: There is a minimum of 2000 on the BKR on the tournament, that might be the reason. The message is not too clear.

23. April 2015, 18:47:11
ThunderGr 
Subject: Re: looking for players
Doris: This is something that can be solved by messaging the creator, I guess. I doubt beach would know anything about it. It can be done by mistake, you know.

23. April 2015, 18:35:29
Doris 
Subject: Re: looking for players
ThunderGr: Yes, I gathered that, but the why??? is what I don't understand. I have never had any cross words with her and she has always seemed very nice. Oh wellll :}

23. April 2015, 18:30:02
ThunderGr 
Subject: Re: looking for players
Modified by ThunderGr (23. April 2015, 18:31:15)
Doris: I took a look at the tournament but the 7 games with standard vacation is too much for my preferences. Obviously, ladyhawke(the creator) must have blocked you from signing up to her tournaments.

23. April 2015, 18:25:29
Doris 
Subject: Re: looking for players
beach: Tried to sign up but I got this message.
The creator does not allow you to sign up for this tournament??????

23. April 2015, 18:14:07
beach 
Subject: looking for players
was asked to post this tournament   please sign up   A BILLION FOR BORIS 1984

14. April 2015, 11:30:37
TC 
Subject: Open Invite: Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2015/05-06
Open Invite: Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2015/05-06

Hi, to 'The Best and The Fast Backgammon Players',

This is an opportunity, check your weight against to other best and fast backgammon players if you inside the top 10% any type of Backgammon Games (Minimum BKR: 1700).

Don't be afraid of endless games and tournaments! If you don't like to join to the Backammon Tournaments without end (related with the move time of the tournament or players), our games finish to the next coming tournament.

We choosed publicly announce this in past popular Tournaments here, in the tournaments discussion and some fellowship groups to all the best and fast players who are inside the top 10% of any type Backgammon Games.

Inside the top 10% any type Backgammon player (Back, Nack, Crowded, Race, Hyper, Anti, Cloning Backgammon, Grasshopper, Plakoto, Fevga), is eligible to join to all other games in this Tournaments before the begin time.

To check where you are in the ratings click to the related links:

Backgammon, Nackgammon, Anti Backgammon, Backgammon Race, Crowded Backgammon, Hyper Backgammon, Cloning Backgammon, Grasshopper, Plakoto, Fevga

Others, outside of top 10% players, will be deleted before the tournaments begin without excuse...

Minimum BKR: 1700
Match type: 5 points match with doubling cube
Tournament type: one match for each two players
Maximum number of players per section: 20
Final match type for two players section: 5 points match with doubling cube
Time control: Time: 3 days, Bonus: 3hours, Limit: 10 days, no days off (red signed)

(That means after beginning you have 3 days (72 hours) for your first move. Per your another move, you'll have 3 hours bonus for your other move time. 10 days is limit time for the opponents, after the move of other side.)

Please click to the Tournament addresse and 'feel free to join to any type of Gammon Games'. You are eligible to join, to all Gammon games without restriction, only if you inside of top 10% in any Gammon Games';(for now we have only ten types of Gammon games).


Open Invite: Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2015/05-06

With your join to this Tournament, hope to play good matches and enjoy!

*********************************************

Thank you!

7. April 2015, 12:03:47
MadMonkey 
Subject: Upcoming Team Tournaments
April 2015 Logik Championship XIII - Logik - 6 players, starts: 20th Apr

April 2015 Ludo XII - Ludo - 7 players, starts: 27 Apr

May the 4th Clone Wars IV - Cloning Backgammon - 6 players, starts: 4th May

May 2015 Atomic Fire 4 (Atomic Chess) - Atomic Chess - 4 players, starts: 10th May

May 2015 Garfield's Pente VII - Pente - 5 players, starts: 18th May

May 2015 Parachute Lines of Action #2 - Lines of Action - 4 players, starts: 25th May

June 2015 International Draughts/Checkers #2 - International Checkers - 4 players, starts: 1st June

June 2015 P-O-K-E-R(x3) #6 (Triple Dice) - Triple Dice Poker - 7 players, starts: 8th June

June 2015 Can you Connect 6 #8 - Connect 6 - 6 players, starts: 15th June

June 2015 R-A-N-D-O-M (all games) #3 - Random Game - 5 players, starts: 22nd June

June 2015 Odie's Battleboats #4 - Battleboats - 5 players, starts: 29th June

6. April 2015, 16:55:19
DeaD man WalkiN 
Subject: need just 2 so this game can start

6. April 2015, 16:52:32
DeaD man WalkiN 
Subject: need 1 more to start.
DeaD Man's GaMeS to StarT ApR 1

Sphere Froglet need 1 more to start.

2. April 2015, 10:08:10
beach 
Subject: looking for players
just need a few more players   Beaches Easter Games 3 days

1. April 2015, 06:04:05
♥♫βaβyĢіґŁŁє♫♥ 

31. March 2015, 10:13:23
beach 
Subject: new tournament
last one I made with 7 days by mistake this one is 3 days Beaches Easter Games 3 days

30. March 2015, 13:27:37
beach 
Subject: new tournament
come and play my easter tournament  Beaches Easter Games

17. March 2015, 19:20:45
PCfromKNM 

17. March 2015, 13:14:31
iv2 

17. March 2015, 11:40:09
Crosseyed Mary 
Subject: Re: Congrats
Modified by Crosseyed Mary (17. March 2015, 11:40:59)
furbster: Well done all three.

17. March 2015, 11:06:24
furbster 
Subject: Congrats
Modified by furbster (17. March 2015, 11:07:56)
to Sacha for winning the 6 months brain rook prize

Battleboats

Well played to Destructor and Ladybird68 for coming 2nd and 3rd respectively.

8. March 2015, 20:37:46
PCfromKNM 

4. March 2015, 04:15:23
Brf 
Subject: *144*Brf's 9th Annual St. Pat's Pente Tourney*144*
Here we go with another installment of Brf's 9th Annual St. Pat's Pente Tourney

Last year was a speedy tournament with Aleph and Spavacz battling out a fast Round 3 with Aleph just edging out Spav to take the win. With that behind us, we're back once again to a clean tourney slate. Noticing a trend of a 2 player finish, If this year by chance we see a final round with only 2 players, the setting will continue to be a 4 wins match so as to try and have the tournament complete in a timely fashion.

This years St Pat's Tourney has the best settings based on 8 years of tweaks for speed while ensuring a solid challenge to all players.

As usual this is a prize tournament with 1 year Brain Rook awarded to the winner. The section size has been set at 7 people per section with time limits set at 2 days per move with vacation allowed.....anything more and the tourney won't finish before the 2016 St Patty's tourney.

Though last year went really well, please keep in mind we've had quite the issue in years past of people using alternate accts (which messes with seeding) and not fessing up about it. Based on the results of THIS POLL, I'm going to be asking all such accounts (without an established Pente BKR) to let me know if this is a legit 'unrated' account or "other". If you fit into this category and I don't receive a Private Message explaining your acct situation before the tourney start time, I will remove the acct from the tournament. I'm sorry to have to do this, but please read the message boards of prior tourney's and you'll understand the debacle I'm trying to prevent.

It's almost here! Do you feel you have the Pente luck of the Irish? well sign up and see how far you can battle your way through the grids! On St.Patricks Day (March 17, 2015) the tourney begins!


My thanks to all of you who continue to sign up for this tournament every year! Good luck to all of you, I look forward to playing you across the board!


PAST TOURNAMENT RESULTS!
St Patty's 2015 WINNER: ????
St Patty's 2014 WINNER: Aleph
St Patty's 2013 WINNERS: Aleph, Spavacz, RichardIII
St Patty's 2012 WINNERS: Brf!
St Patty's 2011 WINNERS: Brf!
St Patty's 2010 WINNERS: Karlw, Novatis
St Patty's 2009 WINNER: Nosovs
St Patty's 2008 WINNERS: Richard III, Nosovs
St Patty's 2007 WINNER: Brf!

1. March 2015, 02:35:34
Evásek 

27. February 2015, 09:40:59
The Col 
Subject: please join!

26. February 2015, 12:13:02
beach 
Subject: Re: Open Tournament Count?
Aganju:   as far as I know it counts each game type as a tournament    so if I start a tournament  and say it has 8 variations of backgammon  that would be 8 tournaments yet you would only see  the name of tournament on the tournament page.  

26. February 2015, 11:29:04
furbster 
Subject: Re: Open Tournament Count?
Aganju: I thought the same a few weeks ago, very odd!

26. February 2015, 04:29:31
Aganju 
Subject: Re: Open Tournament Count?
happyjuggler0: good point.
But then the next-page buttons shouldn't go up to the twenties, right?

26. February 2015, 04:15:18
happyjuggler0 
Subject: Re: Open Tournament Count?
Aganju: I have a possible answer. Does this link count as 1 tournament or a much larger number?

All games; 5 players; fast start.

26. February 2015, 04:09:20
Aganju 
Subject: Open Tournament Count?
When I check the open tournaments, it shows a total of 1472. But when I page through, there are only 65!

What happened to the other 1407? I understand that the tournament creator can ban me from his tournaments, but a) I thought I would still see it, just can't join; and b) am I that much hated, so 96% of all tournaments are blocked for me?

16. February 2015, 22:28:34
Aganju 
Subject: Re: Open Invite: Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2015 3-4
Justaminute: It's still unclear who is included in that 10%.

- without provisional and without inactive players? http://brainking.com/en/Ratings?tp=23 - there are 553, so the cutoff is at 55th position which is (right now) 2302.

- with provisional but without inactive players? http://brainking.com/en/Ratings?tp=23&ap=1 - there are 590, so the cutoff is at 59th position which is (right now) 2296.

- with provisional and with inactive players? http://brainking.com/en/Ratings?tp=23&ap=1&eg=1 - there are 6263, so the cutoff is at 626th position which is (right now) 2165.

- without provisional but with inactive players? http://brainking.com/en/Ratings?tp=23&eg=1 - there are 3627, so the cutoff is at 326th position which is (right now) 2212.

If you say 'clearly, the first', what if I am inactive or my rating is provisional (or both)?

Also, nobody can know if you made the cut at any given time between now and the tournament start; someone would need to continuously check. Therefore, I assume he would check about at the tournament start, which is slightly different than at the moment you signed up. So - better let you losing games sit around a bit, or you might not make the cut anymore on that day?

16. February 2015, 21:23:05
Justaminute 
Subject: Re: Open Invite: Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2015 3-4
ThunderGr: is that how it works? I always thought it was based on the date the tournament starts.

16. February 2015, 21:17:55
ThunderGr 
Subject: Re: Open Invite: Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2015 3-4
Modified by ThunderGr (16. February 2015, 21:18:21)
Justaminute: The rating does not suffer from the same problem. Obviously, you need to be eligible at the time of registering for the tournament, not at the time the tournament starts. Nowhere in the world in any kind of tournament it is required to fulfill qualification conditions at the *start of a tournament*. Only at the time of registration.

16. February 2015, 21:13:43
Justaminute 
Subject: Re: Open Invite: Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2015 3-4
ThunderGr: doesn't rating position/ rating suffer from the same problem.? Today i qualify but lose a game and tomorrow i don't. It doesn't seem that hard to figure out if i am in the top 10% in a game at any point, look at the number of people with ratings and divide by 10. Seems a lot off work for the organiser though because he has dcide who qualifies manually, but if he wants to do it that's his business.

15. February 2015, 16:08:42
Aganju 
Subject: Re: Open Invite: Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2015 3-4
ThunderGr: I find it also too cumbersome to check each discipline, especially as it is a moving target - I might be in today, and out tomorrow.
In addition, and I mentioned that before, the top 10% are mostly people that do not play anymore, so effectively this limits it to 2 or 3 % of active players. Which is to small a pool I think.

And finally, I am simply not good enough to make it into the top 10% of most games, so I stopped checking.

15. February 2015, 14:15:29
ThunderGr 
Subject: Re: Open Invite: Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2015 3-4
Modified by ThunderGr (15. February 2015, 14:16:12)
TC: I fail to see a special reason why not to create one tournament for each backgammon variation, setting the minimum rating in each.

Even if you do not want to do so, I still cannot see why not posting minimum ratings in the forum for each backgammon variation, instead of a completely unfriendly and obscure 10%. I understand politicians and media trying to confuse the population by using percentages but I am of the opinion that a tournament announcement should be as forthcoming as reasonably possible.

As I said in my first post, I do not think that you should care about my opinion on the matter, since it appears most of the people here are fine with your way of setting up these tournaments, I just said that I am not going to participate as long as it stays that way.

I am not fond of being kicked out of tournaments because the organizer did not bother giving me clear qualification requirements.

15. February 2015, 14:01:02
TC 
Subject: Re: Open Invite: Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2015 3-4
ThunderGr:
Yes, it should be easy if the tournament has only one backgammon game.
If it is preferable to arrange all backgammon game types one by one, could be arranged.

But this tournament is for all backgammon game types. Tournament creation page has not enough check and rating points to arrange user BKRs for top 10% backgammon types.

We need else to give a change to join the tournament, if he/she is inside the top 10% any type Backgammon game.

You can search all this tournament page using my alias (TC) and check some development history and ideas spoken related about on.

If you hope, wish and can arrange more acceptable tournament, I am ready to see your tournament and join it!

I else ready to break this type tournament organization and transfer to you (or interested any one of brainking.com user) with pleasure!

15. February 2015, 12:20:28
ThunderGr 
Subject: Re: Open Invite: Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2015 3-4
TC: I already said 2 ideas. Post either rating limit or ranking limit. It is possible and there is no limitation imposed by the site owner. You will have to make the calculations anyway before starting the tournament.

If you use the rating limit, you can include that to your tournament creation, so that you let the site handle the legitimacy of the participants. This convenience has been included to the tournament creation *exactly* to facilitate your kind of tournament and not just for show.

15. February 2015, 11:35:57
TC 
Subject: Re: Open Invite: Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2015 3-4
ThunderGr: Hi!
Users lhas limitations firstly from site owner of brainking.com, to use the technical needs when organise a tournament. Secondly have time confusing choose problems to fix the needed criters.

Simply you check the games as you wish, and please wait when the tournament begins.

I am open to hear other ways, to realize better tournament organizations better than this one. And open new ideas of course!

Thank you.

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