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Game link..... Ponds
Ratings link..... Regular Pond Ratings -and- Dark Pond Ratings -and- Run in the Rain Ratings
Winners link..... All Winners - (Regular Ponds Only) - (Dark Ponds Only) - (Run in the Rain Only)


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12. January 2005, 01:39:33
MidnightMcMedic 
Before anyone else gets yelled at, please be sure and read the entire description before joining a run. Some are starting runs for fellowships only and if you're not a part of those fellowships, you will get a message tell you to leave.

12. January 2005, 01:31:54
Vikings 
only twice, I'm getting dizzy from falling in so much

12. January 2005, 00:22:05
MidnightMcMedic 
You too BBW? Thought I was out there swimming alone LOL

12. January 2005, 00:12:25
furbster 
Modified by furbster (12. January 2005, 00:12:43)
pushed ay, it was an accidental sneeze, with a sudden gust of wind, i wasnt pushing you in you or anything.

12. January 2005, 00:05:56
coan.net 
Splash! You fell in the pond.

Ugh! I leave the site for a few hours, and I get pushed into the water.... TWICE! (Yes, I did not fall - I was pushed!)

11. January 2005, 23:56:59
Czuch 
I think a lot of people were frustrated with the slow pace of the first pond run, and we were "searching" for some way to make this game interesting quicker than the current pace of that game. I think that if the ratio is lower than 40 to 1, which it is currently, it makes the game get 'interesting' much sooner.

I think another way to 'solve' this issue is to allow us to create games with fewer people, so those of us that want, can play more "end games", say start with 6 players, then it would be exciting from the very first move!!

11. January 2005, 20:33:48
grenv 
what are we solving for here? I doubt the subtle difference in amounts will mean a significant change in approach. And firthermore how would you know until you've at least finished one game?

11. January 2005, 16:04:41
coan.net 
I think how Bry explained it would be best.

Starting point Value: Choose between 1,000 - 20,000 (Maybe choices like 1,000, 2,500, 5,000, 7,500, 10,000, 12,500, 15,000, 17,500, 20,000)

Bonus Points: Choice between 0 = 500 (maybe choices like 0, 50, 100, 150, 200, 250, 300, 350, 400, 450, 500)

So the most "unbalanced" game would be start with 1,000 points, and can get up to 500 bonus points - which is how many games will be towards the end of the game anyway!

11. January 2005, 14:04:05
Czuch 
Yes something like that bry....

The way Fencer has described it, nothing will be changed at all from the way it currently is. The reason we want the ability to make our own parameters, is to change the ratio, or percentage between the starting point and the bonus pooihnts. That is the whole idea.

That is why keeping the 500 point bonus at all times, and just letting us continue to create games that have a minimum first bid to change the ratio ourselves , is prefered over having a forced 40 to 1 ratio

11. January 2005, 10:32:03
Bry 
Fencer - if the starting points and bonus are not to become unbalanced, could the option for starting points be a drop down menu where you can only select - for example - 1,000, 2,000, 3,000 up to 20,000, and once you have selected this figure - the option for bonus points is dependent on your starting figure.

For example, if you chose 20,000 starting, the maximum bonus is 500. If you chose 10,000 starting, the maximum bonus you can chose would be 250 and so on.?

11. January 2005, 10:15:29
Thad 
Subject: Re: Points and bonuses
Fencer: The bonus.

11. January 2005, 10:06:07
Fencer 
Subject: Re: Points and bonuses
Thad: I don;'t follow you. What should be minimum of zero?

11. January 2005, 10:01:17
Thad 
Subject: Re: Points and bonuses
Fencer: There should be SOME variation allowed! Maybe minimum of zero (yes, this should be allowed!!) and max of x/number of players in pond.

11. January 2005, 09:48:10
Fencer 
Subject: Points and bonuses
There was an idea to have an option to set the starting points and the bonus value during the pond definition.
Anyway, it should be assured that no future pond game becomes unbalanced because of badly chosen parameters (e.g. starting with 50 points and bonus 5000). That's why this proposal has been created:

x = starting points (multiple of 40)
x/40 = bonus

The current parameters (20000, 500) follow this rule as well.

11. January 2005, 09:30:36
Fencer 
Subject: Re: Antiponds - new idea
Mely: Sounds interesting :-)

10. January 2005, 21:33:43
Czuch 
Subject: Re: Re:
rabbitoid: LOL...we shall see, but they will only do it once, I guarantee that!

10. January 2005, 12:37:42
Crook 
Subject: Re: Antiponds - new idea
Mely: Not bad.. :-)

10. January 2005, 12:08:41
Mely 
Subject: Antiponds - new idea
Dear fencer, dear pondsplayer. I have a new idea for ponds (named antiponds).
The basic rules are the same. But one reduction. The first bid is without reservation. But the next moves have this cut: you can only bid equal or less then your previos move.
Bonus is not given.
So the first bid is very important. If you bid 1.000 points or less, you fall fast in the pond, because you are must give the lowest bid.
If you bid 10.000 points, you stay longer, but soon you have not points left.
I find, this can be a very tricky game.
Dear Fencer, what do you think about one test game ?

10. January 2005, 09:49:57
rabbitoid 
Subject: Re:
Czuch Chuckers: any side bet on how many will forget your rule and bet the usual 7?

10. January 2005, 01:26:45
Czuch 
i NEED 2 MORE TO START A 19000 FIRST BID GAME FOR 16 PEOPLE

9. January 2005, 02:16:06
Stevie 
Subject: Re: Better English Pond Announcement on Main Page
Walter Montego: Duration till next move

;oÞ

9. January 2005, 02:14:38
Walter Montego 
Subject: Better English Pond Announcement on Main Page
You wait for the next round in 1 pond
You are waiting for the next round in 1 pond
You are waiting for the next round in 2 ponds

Least ways that looks like gooder English to me. :)

9. January 2005, 02:05:24
Czuch 
OH, its 1s and 0s, right?

9. January 2005, 02:02:46
Thad 
Subject: Re:
Bad Bishop: Great joke, BB!

9. January 2005, 01:57:06
Czuch 
Is binary in 10s?

LOL, guess you know into what group I fall :)

9. January 2005, 01:56:29
Stevie 
LOL even drunk i understand that LOL

9. January 2005, 01:54:27
Crook 
According the types of people and strong offtopic: I like "There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary and those who don't." :-)

9. January 2005, 01:47:23
grenv 
Betting low is understandable, even a small advantage near the end could be decisive. Of course it is risky as well.

I still don't understand people betting 1800 in the first pond. Clearly 11 would stay alive for instance in this case. The best you can hope for with a bet of 1800 is net 1300.

Oh well, as they say there are 3 types of people in the world, those that can count and those who can't

9. January 2005, 00:04:19
Czuch 
Subject: Re:
kitti: Thats what makes every game so unique... BBW just bet a 502 in the first round and got the bonus and is in first place! The dynamics will always be in flux. Soon someone will get burned in the first round with a quite high bet and people will start to bet a lot higher on the first round....MAYBE!

8. January 2005, 23:35:29
kitti 
I'm quite surprised how low people are going on the smaller ponds in the first rounds. I guess the first one with loads of players has had quite an influence on everyones minds :)

8. January 2005, 22:32:46
Maxxina 
Muhehe :]

8. January 2005, 22:31:06
Crook 
Don't forget to bid for the second round. :-)

8. January 2005, 22:29:29
coan.net 
Only 1 player did not bid the min in the 19000 min pond game, and that was Rose - Luckly just the one so they fell into the lake!

One with 19400 got 500 bonus, so it sitting really well now.

http://brainking.com/game/Pond?g=28 - Bry's 19000 min first bid tournament.

8. January 2005, 15:59:06
Bry 
Fencer - can you take that to the BK.com board please... off topic... LOL.

8. January 2005, 15:50:58
Fencer 
The main reason was the BKR and history regeneration.

8. January 2005, 15:46:45
Stevie 
I guess it was part of the site down just a little earlier

8. January 2005, 15:46:01
Fencer 
Heh :-)

8. January 2005, 15:45:01
Bry 
Fencer - great work on the "signed up" and message when fall in" changes.

8. January 2005, 15:36:57
Stevie 
cool we get a message when wqe fall in LOL

8. January 2005, 13:26:16
Stevie 
Subject: Re: I cant remember..
Fencer: Cool I realised nothing would show yet...
But how will it work?

8. January 2005, 13:25:31
Maxxina 
How would you make it , there is big difference in run where are 16 players and difference in totally first run where is about two hundred players . Victory in first run will have bigger value then 16 players run .

8. January 2005, 13:24:26
Fencer 
Subject: Re: I cant remember..
Stevie: Yes but there is nothing to rate until at least one pond is finished.

8. January 2005, 13:07:31
Stevie 
Subject: I cant remember..
Modified by Stevie (8. January 2005, 13:08:05)
was there a rating system set up for pond yet?

8. January 2005, 11:31:48
Fencer 
Heh :-)

8. January 2005, 11:28:08
plaintiger 
beautiful job, putting the ponds on the main page. thank you, Fencer! :)

7. January 2005, 18:29:19
Bry 
Hopefully Fencer will sort it. I'd rather it say inside the page which ones you have signed up for as you wont need to look thru them all. Even if that number said 2, I'd still have to trawl thru them all to see whoch one or two I havent signed for....

7. January 2005, 18:24:00
Jason 
yes i just tried it , signed up for another , but still says 15

7. January 2005, 18:23:12
Bry 
no mate - there's 15 pond games there. I went thru them all and I had already signed up for 12 of them, one i couldnt as it had reached 16 players max and 2 were new ones i have now signed up for.

7. January 2005, 18:20:38
Jason 
bry , the number 15 is the number of ponds available that you havent signed up for ..(its that way in my case) but i havent signed up for any more since fencer altered things .

7. January 2005, 18:16:27
Bry 
Pauloaguia - good point.
BBW - yes = if anyone messes this up i'll be after them!!!

Fencer - 2 things....

1) - can we change the number of points to start with?

2) - when it says 15 next to ponds. can this be reduced to the number you have not signed up for? or even better - when you go into the ponds sign up - it tells you if you have already signed up for each pond game or not (to save me having to enter every one to see if I have already entered it.....

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