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furbster: I just enjoy all types of backgammon! 1pointers or 5 point matches i liek them all, more people tend to sign up to 1 point tournaments though and i prefer more competition. I will set up a 5 point cubed brain tourney too and see if many people want to join that one.
furbster: I always wonder why many people make Backgammon tournaments with no doubling cube. Backgammon has a certain percentage of luck in it, which gets reduced significantly by playing for a higher game count, and the doubling cube is a critical part of the game logic. Personally, I avoid tournaments where there is only a match to one point, because the game is too much chance under those circumstances. Don't get me wrong - I am not criticizing you, furbster, and it's of course your right to make any tournament you like. I just see many of those, and I don't join them for that reason, and it makes me wonder why even strong players create them this way. Do you care to explain?
Subject: Open Invite: Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2015/07-08
Open Invite: Top 10% Faster Backgammoners for 2015/07-08
Hi, to 'The Best and The Fast Backgammon Players',
This is an opportunity, check your weight against to other best and fast backgammon players if you inside the top 10% any type of Backgammon Games (Minimum BKR: 1700).
Don't be afraid of endless games and tournaments! If you don't like to join to the Backammon Tournaments without end (related with the move time of the tournament or players), our games finish to the next coming tournament.
We choosed publicly announce this in past popular Tournaments here, in the tournaments discussion and some fellowship groups to all the best and fast players who are inside the top 10% of any type Backgammon Games.
Inside the top 10% any type Backgammon player (Back, Nack, Crowded, Race, Hyper, Anti, Cloning Backgammon, Grasshopper, Plakoto, Fevga), is eligible to join to all other games in this Tournaments before the begin time.
To check where you are in the ratings click to the related links:
Others, outside of top 10% players, will be deleted before the tournaments begin without excuse...
Minimum BKR: 1700 Match type: 5 points match with doubling cube Tournament type: one match for each two players Maximum number of players per section: 20 Final match type for two players section: 5 points match with doubling cube Time control: Time: 3 days, Bonus: 3hours, Limit: 10 days, no days off (red signed)
(That means after beginning you have 3 days (72 hours) for your first move. Per your another move, you'll have 3 hours bonus for your other move time. 10 days is limit time for the opponents, after the move of other side.)
Please click to the Tournament addresse and 'feel free to join to any type of Gammon Games'. You are eligible to join, to all Gammon games without restriction, only if you inside of top 10% in any Gammon Games';(for now we have only ten types of Gammon games).
Aganju: Yes, that also (and of course as long as he can not advance to the next round) - Currently Fencer does sometimes let pawns join new tournaments once that happens - of course in the case we are discussing now, they will be in the next round..... once it starts, which will mostly likely still be awhile.
coan.net: I agree. Sounds like a good idea. Or what about this: if the Pawn has finished all his game(s) in the tournament, he can join another one? It is not his fault that the others have not yet finished?
For this situation, in my opinion is that the best solution would be a change in the rule of pawn in tournaments.
Current rule is a pawn can only be in 1 tournament at a time.
I think it should be change to:
Pawn can only be in 1 tournament at a time, OR if current tournament started 6 months ago or more, another tournament will be allowed to be started.
Most tournament (well if you play fast, you should join faster tournaments) last less then 6 months, so when these cases come up like this, then it would allow players to join other tournaments while the 1st one finishes.
Of course Fencer isn't programming much lately, so I don't think this will get programmed, but I think if possible, would be a good working solution.
pgt: Exactly this is the reason I do not participate in gammon(especially cloning backgammon) tournaments with long time controls. It does not matter how many years it can take for a tournament to finish. You have to take that in account when setting up time controls. This is why Fischer time controls exist. Any tournament creator can make use of them. Anyone wanting to participate to a tournament can take the time controls in account. Less people participate in tournaments, because less people play in the site. And from those that pay, very few like quick time controls, it seems. I am one of those that try to create tournaments with quick time controls. Hardly any of them ever get enough people to start.
Hrqls: Is THAT tournament still running? I was in that tournament and my last move was TEN years ago! How ridiculous that a simple backgammon tournament should last TEN years! With any luck you should be able to win the tournament before you die - is your health good? I actually think that for future tournaments, there should be a provision that any games not completed within 12 months of the start of the tournament round should be forfeited, and the leading player after 12 months should be promoted to the next round. Ok, I know we can't do that for running tournaments (actually we could if anybody had the inclination and initiative to take a stand and actually DO it), but maybe in future??? - if Fencer can "be bothered!"
Hrqls: It is very nice of you to reply in such a positive manner. You know why I am not a paying member, and actually I don't especially want to play in tournaments. The fact is, I CAN win this tournament, but only if I live long enought!! NINE YEARS IS A LONG TIME FOR (part of) A TOURNAMENT!
beach: Thank you for your homily. You will see from my profile that I joined this site about 2 weeks after you did, and have been playing here for a little over 12 years. During that time I have had a paid membership for about three years, and informed Fencer that I would renew my paid membership when he implemented a sensible autopass feature in BG. Sadly, his response was "can't be bothered" so hence I have declined to renew my paid membership. Before you tell me that there is an autopass feature, think about how much better it COULD be.
I am not actually fussed about winning or losing the tournament. As I said, I am 75 years old now, and if it goes on for another 5 years, I might well be dead, and then it will take another 7 years or so for me to time out before the next round can begin. In the end the winner will be the player who outlives all the others! What a great result THAT would be!! I am NOT upset, and it is not restricting me from playing and enjoying games. It just seems to me that taking NINE years to complete a Backgammon tournament, whatever the parameters, is just bloody ridiculous.
If less people are signing up for tournaments, maybe this is one of the reasons!
the problem with this tournament for pgt is that he is a pawn (free) member which only allows 1 ongoing tournament
so while this tournament is not finished, he cannot join any other tournament, unless he purchases a membership
i understand his reasons not to buy a membership (read his profile), but there always 2 sides to something.
to solve the issue i think you can ask fencer to be removed from the tournament, but i am not sure if that solves it
a better solution would be to allow new tournaments for pawn players who cannot win the current running tournament anymore, and who have played all their games, as technically they arent in the tournament anymore
pgt: Those players play according to the tournament's time controls. When you signed up to the tournament, you knew the time controls. The fact that you have finished your games, along with the majority of the players and they have not, does not give you the right to violate your agreement with the time controls at the expense of your rivals. What you suggest is unethical and I am sorry if you cannot understand it.
As a final reminder, this is a game site. You play games for enjoyment. You can resign any game at anytime if you no longer enjoy playing it.
As beach said, there are far more important things in life than getting upset because a tournament has not finished when you deem it should have.
pgt: everyone plays tournaments differently why are you upset about that tournament, I searched for it and couldn't find it. ThunderGR is correct. I have a tournament I am playing in that has been running for 10 years. A cloning backgammon 15 game tournament it had a 7 day time limit. Anyone playing in his type of tournament should not expect it to end quickly it won't. Nothing anyone can do about how a person chooses to play. Most people play 3 day tournaments they might be slow by your standard but they are not my most peoples. Some people like to play one or 2 tournaments and that's it other enjoy playing several. Some people like to make several moves in the same game in one day, others like to play several tournaments within the time frame set out. Everyone who is a paying member is capable of setting up time limits that they like to play. Tournaments today are not the same as they were a few years ago here. Its different now, not the same type of players either. I play much different now then I did a few years ago. Anyone you takes the time to set up a tournament (and I am glad that they do) can tell you there are far less people signing up for tournaments and often its hard to get the minimum amount of players. Only the most popular like backgammon and ludo will get players. There are several tournaments that I see which are what I call superfast 1 and 2 with bonus clock. Those are for people who want a tournament to end quickly. Myself I know that these people want people who like to makes several moves in the same game in one day. I choose not to sign up for those. There is one person here who sets them up regularly I am sure you would enjoy his tournaments.
This is a game site, try not to let it upset you, there are far more important things in life. Well I have said my rant for the evening back to playing a few games
ThunderGr: "There is nothing anybody can do about it" - What rubbish!! There is PLENTY people could do about it if they had the will. If you had said "There is nothing we feel like doing anything about" I would have believed you.
"It is all about what most people enjoy best." - I think I am speaking for all of the people who have already qualified for the next round, and most of them several YEARS ago, that they are "most people" in your context, and I am sure that they would "enjoy best" to delete the two players who are holding things up, and get on with the tournament. The two players holding up the tournament are not "most people". Reply
pgt: I understand your problem. However, since people do not like participating in tournaments with fast or superfast time controls, there is nothing anyone can do about it. It is all about what most people enjoy best.
GoodFoods' 6th Broiling Backgammon Invitational (Backgammon) It's 9 (NINE - that's NINE) YEARS (yese, not weeks or days - YEARS since the first round of this tournament and there are still two players playing THE FIRST RFOUND!!!