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14. October 2006, 05:40:22
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re:
pawnme: I just read it - what a waste of time.

20. September 2006, 15:13:25
Pedro Martínez 
I think this was enough for an "odd mention" of a 10x8 variant that is not available on BK. I recommend to continue this discussion somewhere else (PMs?).

19. April 2006, 00:56:57
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re:
Modified by Pedro Martínez (20. April 2006, 07:11:55)
JinkyOng: ****.

[Post deleted by WQ but marker retained for posterity.]

16. March 2006, 21:06:29
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: What others are saying
HalfPawn: No, my message didn't say anything about you being a genius to be able to read the post.

16. March 2006, 20:58:48
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: What others are saying
HalfPawn: So what?

16. March 2006, 07:32:02
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: What others are saying
HalfPawn: You must be a genius, being able to derive that most of the French chess players in the world disagree with Walter on that matter from that article and those posts. Almost of the same level as Trice.

15. March 2006, 20:05:32
Pedro Martínez 
Modified by Pedro Martínez (15. March 2006, 20:12:58)
I know this is off-topic but I just had to laugh when I read Trice's comments about "giving me bets to place round after round". It IS true that he gave me 6 bets for the first 6 round of this pond ( http://brainking.com/cz/Pond?bms=5&g=10 )
and when he saw he was at 30th place after round 6, he stopped sending me his bets. Sorry about this post not being related to 10x8 chess variants, but I just couldn't help myself.

6. March 2006, 23:46:46
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re:
Walter Montego: Hermes.

1. March 2006, 17:14:03
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: yipee!
ColonelCrockett: What's Gothic Chess?

28. February 2006, 23:06:57
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: yipee!
WhiteTower: What's GC?

20. February 2006, 07:20:34
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re:
HalfPawn: The US Embassy in Prague sometimes plays very nasty games.

12. January 2006, 20:36:05
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: The archbishop/janus
Caissus: Or vice versa...I'd like the janus to replace the archbishop. :)

19. August 2005, 19:02:47
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: Anyone know Russian?
Modified by Pedro Martínez (19. August 2005, 19:02:58)
BIG BAD WOLF: No computer-based translator will EVER give you an exact translation. Even though it might be able to give you a little clue of what the text is about (if it is simple enough), never rely on it much. In my opinion, this a good example of an industry where computers will never surpass humans.

12. July 2005, 23:30:46
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re:
Grim Reaper: Sumerian resigned because he felt ChessCarpenter and Chessmaster1000 were moving too slow in those games.

12. July 2005, 20:45:37
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: Gothic Chess Christmas Giveaway
Sumerian: Very easily.

30. June 2005, 20:35:15
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: Benefits to Gothic Chess
ColonelCrockett: I think it can. And vice versa.

8. June 2005, 18:11:19
Pedro Martínez 
Further posts about unit systems will be deleted unless you demonstrate some connection with 10x8 chess variants.

4. April 2005, 00:22:59
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re:
bumble: I do.

3. April 2005, 21:53:03
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: I'll do the job for you, Ed
NOT a floosie's last game of Gothic Chess, from July 28, 2004.

http://brainking.com/game/ArchivedGame?g=371554

And of her 81 active games, how many are Gothic Chess games?

0.

But thanks for telling us to calm down.

2. April 2005, 16:38:30
Pedro Martínez 
Modified by Pedro Martínez (4. April 2005, 02:49:42)
comment removed

5. March 2005, 13:18:44
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: Tedbarber
Walter Montego: I think there is such an option...

4. March 2005, 16:59:03
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: Re:
tedbarber: DO NOT PLAY 2, 4, OR 10-GAME MATCHES AND ALL YOUR INDIVIDUAL GAMES WILL BE RATED.

4. March 2005, 11:55:33
Pedro Martínez 
Play 3 1-game matches instead of 1 3-game one. As easy as that.

4. March 2005, 01:31:48
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: Ratings vs Matches:
tedbarber: If you choose to play a rated game or match, then all games ARE rated and counted...I don't know what's your problem

17. February 2005, 03:17:25
Pedro Martínez 
Trice claims he has a contract with Hasbro. They should, allegedly, start selling Gothic Chess sets this summer.

13. February 2005, 17:40:36
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: Re:
Modified by Pedro Martínez (13. February 2005, 17:40:57)
Walter Montego: Note that I'm not saying that Ed lies. I see only these two options, nothing else. He either has the patent or doesn't have the patent. Either the registers are wrong or Trice lies. No third way.

Trice PMed me last night that he would send the respective documents to Fencer if Fencer asked him to do so. That's the situation how it is now. I know how uncomfortable the correspondence with Ed Trice is for Filip so let's wait how everything is going to end up.

13. February 2005, 17:18:40
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: Re:
Walter Montego: I feel that if you went to Geneva now and applied for an international patent for Gothic Chess today, you should be successful. There are no signs whatsoever there would be any patent in force for the EU region for Gothic Chess.

I think Trice either didn't apply for the examination of his application according to A.94(2) EPC or he didn't pay the fee connected with it.

Trice though claims he has been awarded the patent. There are two possibilities now:

1. Edward A. Trice lies.
2. Both WIPO and EPO on-line registers that are updated every day are wrong and they do not include Trice's patent, which was, in fact, awarded.

There is only one way out of this: Trice has to show some evidence that his patent exists.

13. February 2005, 17:02:32
Pedro Martínez 
Article 94 of the European Patent Convention:

"1) The European Patent Office shall examine, on written request, whether a European patent application and the invention to which it relates meet the requirements of this Convention.



(2)63 A request for examination may be filed by the applicant up to the end of six months after the date on which the European Patent Bulletin mentions the publication of the European search report. The request shall not be deemed to be filed until after the examination fee has been paid. The request may not be withdrawn.



(3) If no request for examination has been filed by the end of the period referred to in paragraph 2, the application shall be deemed to be withdrawn"

13. February 2005, 16:20:02
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: Re:
chessmec: Really, if you lived in the US and made a 10x8 board and the gothic chess pieces of wood and sold it to your grandmother for ten bucks, telling her how to play it, you would be in breach with the patent.

13. February 2005, 16:09:26
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: Re:
chessmec: I'm afraid he can.

13. February 2005, 16:05:38
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re:
fariborz2: I consider this as a GREAT idea, fariborz2. It would definitely exclude such game (it's name would have to be different from gothic chess, of course), from the patent, if exists.

13. February 2005, 16:02:51
Pedro Martínez 
Trice told me he would investigate why is the application considered withdrawn. I asked him to give me any other evidence that proves the existence of his patent, he sent me a reply with about hundred of words but it was mostly about how much money he makes per day and his contracts with Hasbro and what everything he can do with this site. No evidence whatsoever.

13. February 2005, 15:53:56
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: GC Patent
Modified by Pedro Martínez (13. February 2005, 15:54:29)
chessmec: That says that Trice's application for an int. patent is deemed to be withdrawn.

13. February 2005, 15:50:37
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: GC Patent
Sumerian: I know that also. What is the number of his international patent?

13. February 2005, 13:32:22
Pedro Martínez 
All international PCT patents (which Edward. A. Trice claims to have) can be found here:
http://www.wipo.int/ipdl/en/
and here:
http://register.epoline.org/espacenet/ep/en/srch-reg.htm

If somebody finds that the patent was awarded to Trice there, I will pay a life-time maharajah membership for him.

13. February 2005, 00:07:22
Pedro Martínez 
Modified by Pedro Martínez (13. February 2005, 00:14:50)
Oh yeah, better delete all your posts.

13. February 2005, 00:05:17
Pedro Martínez 
Now stop lying Ed. I changed my post for a typo and as you can see, 25 seconds after the original post. What radical change could I make in 25 seconds?

You stopped sending me your bets several rounds ago. I don't know why, I never told you anything about not wanting you to do that.

12. February 2005, 02:35:11
Pedro Martínez 
Modified by Pedro Martínez (12. February 2005, 02:35:36)
Oh come on, Cerebro. You either don't know what you're talking about or you're a very bad lawyer. You say that any WTO member country has to respect any patents registered in other member countries??? That is such a nonsense. I have already recommended to Fencer not to renew the "license". It seems you have troubles differentiating between intellectual property law and patent law. I'd wish Trice sued Fencer, I would represent Fencer for free, if he wanted me.

11. February 2005, 22:54:27
Pedro Martínez 
Thad: Until a holder of any American patent registers his/her patent at the European Patent Office or the Czech Patent Office, the subject of this patent can be used no matter whether the holder of the patent agrees with such usage or not. I.e., there's no agreement between Fencer and EdTrice needed so that Gothic Chess could be played here.

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