(NOTE: the original tournament slated to start on Jan 17 was flawed and started with only 1 game for 2 players. I had Fencer delete this tournament since it was not fixable. Let's try this one more time!)
SO, if you were signed up before you'll need to RE-sign up in this new tournament! I apologize for the hassle but something went haywire with the tournament settings and I know none of us wanted to play anything short of a complete "SET" so this is now fixed.
For the first 7 instances of this King Of The Hill tournament, I've only hosted it within the SPP fellowship. The last KOTH however I decided to open it up to the rest of BK so we could try and get all 20 slots filled up. This worked fairly well so I think I'll follow the same plan for this 9th version of the tournament.
The 9th KOTH will start on January 21 and will have a 2 day 1 hour move time limit with vacation allowed.
Please also keep in mind that up to 19 other players can sign up, this may equal a total of up to 38 games you may be playing on January 21! (MINIMUM of 14 Players required to start!) If you do not have enough open game slots for your membership level it is very likely you'll be auto-removed from the tournament at the start time.
Now is your chance to be the 2015 "King Of The Hill"! Remember though, only 20 people will be allowed to play in one BIG section. If you have any additional questions, feel free to PM me Brf message link. though you may want to sign up now just to make sure that you get one of the twenty available slots. Once all slots are gone the tourney is FULL, and you'll have to wait for next years KOTH to get in on the action!
Aside from enjoying the view from the top of the hill, whomever wins this tournament will have their name permanently added to the other fine champions listed below and on the main page in the SPP fellowship. Good luck to all players, it's going to be another fun tourney!
Thad: well with the java exploits and staying up on that, coupled with getting the forums hacked. as well as day to day server crashes, database corruption, making\restoring backups. continual coding requirements to add features such as you suggested "more games" I know he didn't have time for it.
I think he's more focused on that BabyESP app he developed and unlike the pente site it actually generates revenue. It is a sad day that there is no more DSG though, I wish someone would've taken it over just to keep the forums, dbase, and the live play aspect still alive.
Brf: Seems to me that a site like that should run itself without much day-to-day maintenance once everything is set up. I realize that it might not work out that way, though. I wonder what was involved in keeping it going.
I would think about buying it if I could get all the code and everything if I thought I could make a little $$$ from the effort, but I would rather invest in a site that includes more games than just Pente.
Thad: Not surprised really with the way things were going on the day to day running of the site. It's too bad Peter had to shut it down but I understand not having the time he once had to manage it all. DSG will be missed!
"some players", obviously means me. i wrote that draw isnt possible in "regular game", not pente game at all. by regular game i thought about a situation where at least one player is trying to win, not both of them playing to make a board full. at least brf got that correctly..
okjb: you should've been a participant in that tournament, I know I sent you a message about it but you might not have seen it in time. Shoot for it next year
yeah I've done the fill board before with snut and dmitriking trying to draw and it does work when all the spaces are filled up in the correct sequence. realistically though you have to design it like you said since more than likely you'll never fill the board without captures occurring especially towards the end.
In regular pente it's rare to see a board with 30 moves still being played though. most games are decided in under 20 :)
On the discussion board of *144*Brf's 7th Annual St. Pat's Pente Tourney*144* tournament some players wrote that draw is not possible in regular pente games. They are wrong, draw is possible. Since I'm not a participant of this tournament, I'm writing here.
Here you can see the local fragment, the rest of the board is filled systematically.
OXXXXOOOOX XOOOOXXXXO OXXXXOOOOX XOOOOXXXXO
At first, players fill columns C,D,G,H etc. After that they fill remained columns. It is easy to see that any piece will not be captured.
Attn paying members who play Pente and its variants. Please join my fellowship Brian's 1971 pub to join our Pente tournaments starting June 15. We have a tournament for all 6 Pente games at Brainking. Hope to see you there.
Wow. I just finished a 255 game match! Well, sort of. It looks like you can't play a match that's longer than 255 games. Our match just disappeared from the main page without any warning or message or anything after game #255. Open Pente (Thad vs. JackS)
Thad: no worries, I had to select some cutoff since nosovs had set it up as kind of a "best of" tourney. Haven't seen a whole lot of activity on the pente front lately anyway. seems like alot of the best players have stepped back and are in retirement or are otherwise too busy to consider it.
I was hoping opening it up to the masses would generate a couple of more signups above the 2150bkr but if that doesn't happen we'll just let the tournament expire. Even 6 players seems a bit light....everyone in the tournament would've preferred 10 players.
I may retry the Super Pente Tourney in 2014 with signups starting in November to and open to 2100 or above....we'll see if there's enough interest to warrant it when we get there.
On another note the st pats tournament signups will be starting on February 1, 2013, Hopefully that will see a better turnout there. Stay Tuned to this highly active message board!
OK, since Nosovs went into retirement I have been taking on his Super Pente Tournament. This tournament has always been invite only and aimed towards the higher Ranked BKR players of the game. I have sent out many invites and only 4 players have accepted thus far. That being the case I decided to open up the tournament to ANY Brainking player that has a rating of 2150 or higher.
We only need 2 more players and the tournament will start! If you meet the BKR criteria please consider signing up for the tournament, we'd love to have you on board and get it going ASAP. thanks! -Brf
Thad: I am one of the few that disagree with this perceived P1 advantage. I lose as P1 often enough to know that if someone REALLY wants to put in the time there is usually a way to take the game away from your P1 opponent. I also tend to win a lot of games where I'm P2 also, so implying that P1 has such a sizable advantage that a players best course of action is to quit playing pente & switch to connect6 doesn't seem quite sound to me.
to each their own I suppose. Personally I've played 'te for far too long and appreciate all the subtle nuances each years worth of playing against the best players brings to the games overall evolution....it's far from played out.
pente never gets dull to me....any game without captures is another variant of go-moku to me and that kind of strategizing where stones don't ever come off the board (allowing for unplanned significant change to the playing field) does seem dull . That's just my opinion. I'm sure connect6 can be fun, but for me....captures are a must for laying another dimension of play possiblity onto the game.
Here we are again with another yearly installment of the much anticipated "St Patricks Day Pente Tournament"
After constantly adjusting and tweaking the Tourney Settings every year to try and improve the flow and speed, last years parameter change of "10 wins match" should not have been selected. The 2011 tourney is still ongoing due to this
improper setting for a "final match with two players."
With that key learning identified, I believe we'll use the same settings as last years format but lower the 10 wins match to something more reasonable '5' seems like a decent baseline since 3 is a bit light. With this minor change,
this years St Pat's Tourney should have the best settings yet for speed while maintaining a solid challenge to all players.
This is a prize tournament with 1 year Brain Rook awarded to the winner. The section size has been set at 7 people per section with time limits set at 2 days per move with vacation allowed.....anything more and the tourney
won't finish before the 2012 St Patty's tourney.
Do you feel you have the Pente luck of the Irish? well sign up and see how far you can make it through the Rounds! On St.Patricks Day (March 17, 2012) the tourney begins!
My thanks to all of you who continue to sign up for this tournament every year! Good luck to all of you, I look forward to playing you across the board!
The tradition here at Brainking goes into it's fifth consecutive year with yet another St Patricks Day Pente Tournament.
Last years format really honed in the settings that work best for this type of high level Pente tournament...and it was over in a record 6 months! So, with just a few slight mods to the tourney parameters...I believe this years tourney is really getting dialed in and has the best settings we've ever tried.
This is a prize tournament with 1 year Brain Rook awarded to the winner. The section size has been set at 7 people per section with time limits set at 2 days per move with vacation allowed.....anything more and the tourney won't finish before the 2012 St Patty's tourney.
So you have to ask yourself, do you feel you have the Pente luck of the Irish? well sign up and see how far you can make it through the Rounds! On St.Patricks Day (March 17, 2011) the tourney begins!
My thanks to all of you who continue to sign up for this tournament every year! Good luck to all of you, I look forward to playing you across the board!
UPDATE: it's 3-9-11 we're getting a great turnout with 68 people signed up already! so quit procrastinating and click on the link , you only have 8 days left to join!
Snut: different team snut. you can change teams in the fellowship on the team area and see all 4 of our teams. you as far as I know are only in "Pente" thus you can't play in this Keryo tourney unless you signed up.
this tournament is only for Keryo players actively listed on a Keryo team.
Brf: Hey Brfles... I know I am on the pente team. If that means that I'll have to play Keryo Pente if you enter the team in this tourney you've mentioned, then I want to say now that I don't want to play in this tournament. I despise Keryo Pente and absolutely DO NOT want to play it.
I'm not sure that the fact that I am on our pente team means I have to play every style of pente that you enter our team to play. I'm not sure how all that works.. I will say that Regular pente and Open Pente are the only games I really want to play (and hell, not even Open Pente that much)... Thanks for understanding Brfles... Let me know what the deal is, bro... Late.
The tradition here at Brainking continues with another St Patricks Day Pente Tournament. After the fiasco with last years "single elimination" tourney format, I've decided to go back to straight sets in the old section based format.
This is a prize tournament with 1 year Brain Rook awarded to the winner. The section size has been set at 7 people per section with time limits set at 2 days per move with vacation allowed.....anything more and the tourney won't finish before the 2011 St's Patty's tourney.
So you have to ask yourself, do you feel you have the Pente luck of the Irish? well sign up and see how far you can make it through the Rounds! On St.Patricks Day (March 17, 2010) the tourney begins! My thanks to all of you who continue to sign up for this tournament every year! Good luck to all players, I look forward to playing you across the board!
tarcellius: In a general sense, you could try to reference the AI of a chess program. The best, easiest one I've seen is Tom's Simple Chess Program that you can find at this website: http://www.tckerrigan.com/Chess/TSCP
It follows the general need for board game AI: 1.) find legal moves (harder in pente than chess since more legal moves available for the most part) and potentially prune out terrible ones 2.) find a way to assign a score to a position Hope that helps!
I teach a high school programming class part-time, and for an upcoming class project I am considering a pente game. The students already have a GUI framework provided for them that handles images in a grid fairly well (see http://www.horstmann.com/gridworld). In writing their game, I would like to have the students implement a simple AI to play against.
I could brush up on general turn-based strategy algorithms, and then apply them to pente to write the project demo. But frankly, I can only spend so much time on my part-time job, so I don't have the time to try several different approaches before settling on a decent one that isn't too much coding for my students to handle.
So, can anyone point me to any resources for this effort? I'm looking for outlines for existing AI algorithms that are known to work reasonably well without massive coding. Or even the source code to an AI which I can pare down for my students (Like Mark Mammel's AI). Or any other pointers.
Keeping with tradition I've got another St Patricks Day Tournament out there but I'm changing things up a bit this time.
Only 64 people will be allowed into this years tournament since it's Single Elimination with a '2 wins to advance' match format. The Single Elimination is an experiment to make things more head to head and skill centric, hopefully taking away the random advantage a player can sometimes get over another in a section. (for example: where a player times out in just one game and gives an advantage to one of two other equal players.)
I'm keeping the same time limits as last years (2 days per move with vacation allowed) since that seemed to work rather well. Cash prizes are kind of a pain for Fencer to deal with so I've decided to set the prize as one year Brain Rook (approximately 50$ US value).
So you have to ask yourself, do you feel you have the pente luck of the Irish? well sign up and see how far you can make it through the grid! On St. Patricks Day (March 17, 2009) the tourney begins! Good luck to all players, I look forward to playing you across the board!
Subject: it's now a 16 player pente single elim. tourney
I had started a 32 person single elimination tourney for open pente, small pente, Pente, and Keryo pente which I opened up to all of BK. The tournament was a two wins match format with a total time of 16 days allowed for the whole game and was supposed to start November 15, 2008! SPP, All Te Games, 16 Day game, Single elimination, Rated
Since none of the tournaments had a signup of 32 players I've asked Fencer to lower the required number of players to 16! The tournament will be deleted in 24 days if 16 players do not sign up. We're really close on the "pente" tourney and about halfway there on the the other variants. Please consider signing up if you haven't done so already. Thanks! -Brf
Subject: 32 player pente single elim. tourney, NOV 15!
I have started a 32 person single elimination tourney for open pente, small pente, Pente, and Keryo pente. This is open to the whole world (otherwise I don't think we'd get all 32 folks. it's a two wins match format with a total time of 16 days allowed for the whole game The tourney starts November 15, 2008! here's the link Pente+, 32plr, Single elim, 2 win match,16day game