ustica tnp: thats not the reason for the top 10 being the way it is . i started yrs ago & only started with 1500 . now they start them off much higher & the winning streaks i see these newbies have is incredulous. . but most all drop like a stone. others a few are able to stay 1900+ . look ustica a machine is calling the turn. you see when you're going good you win on kickers ,river , etc. when things are going bad ,you have a k spades & 1 player has the nut ace . i don't know if each day some chairs give out better hands than others. i'm sure you've had sessions where you didn't see a pic card for an hr . i understand your beef . but i doubt things will change . most games i see now are heads up affairs. you get 4 players or more much less than in the golden age (: .most days theres no game to play . if you look back in forum you'll see i've made comments some time back which availed naught g/l when we meet again mook
PierrequiRoule: you make some points .but seeing your opponents cards is a no no . if you've played for cash you know you have to pay to see. the games okay as is except i never see cards come out at real games like these do. but you're here long enough to know the tendencies. a merry x-mas to you Pierre.it would be ideal to have a reg table going & some on the next higher table .but ppl drift in & out. i don't know the time difference i guess plays a big part . otherwise its as good as its going to be.i've asked for improvements. but it would be time consuming & fencer can't devote the time to it. we all have our pet peeves. i guess the best thing is to grin n bear it mook let me wish all the players who read this stuff "seasons greetings"
Subject: Re: RE: Fish Behavior. ( As mentioned in Fencer's last post)
bobwhoosta: hey bob i know you're a maven .not only your chip total .but i either observed or played in a group with ya. yeah bob that would be right on when playing with card players . i had 1 4 i bet 50 pre flop .i got the ace with 2 no help cards 2 guys are in with me . i increase the bet as there are no straights or flush happening. these 2 guys are calling me . river i go all in .both called .one had a 48 the other bubkus .yet they called my every bet & all in . i made over a G . look when 2 pair , 789 3 or four of a suit. its hard to gauge .i had a guy call my turn 300 bet nut 2 pair he had 3 10 of hearts .& was rewarded with flush. players betting out preflop then check or they're out. on these tables you gotta throw away the book. if you bet early all go out they play the hand to river .if they bet then they pulled something . they will call you all the way down the line. good to talk to a card player. were there big games back in the day ha ha i meant the totals amassed astound me. you must have had a good crew big games. or played for 15 yrs (: anyway g/l to you .maybe run into you in a group game. mookster
rod03801: sorry if a little criticism caused such a stir .i will stay off these boards. i asked you to amplify your theory about the cache got no HELP .ok case closed .. in any event i'll play it as it lies . win lose or break even. nice meeting you mookster /
rod03801: not completely.by the way i didn't write to you .is fencer your user name? yeah just blowing off steam .i'm pretty mellow .just that why make a statement you can make something work better & then not explain why you haven't / you make light of the 2 8 of hearts.ppl playing are pretty gung ho & take the games very seriously i think they deserve a better shake. instead of addressing the bug or whatever ,its my cache .does he think i'm from lower slobovia or what. ok lets drop it. maybe sometime it will all come right with a brand new program. other than that ,the site is a good one .made many acquaintances over the yrs. now i've made yours. have a good weekend mook53lhd
rod03801: never heard of that the card was there . i'm using pc's close to ten yrs. i'm no techie ,but lets not run interference.his concern should have been to look into it .those answers i expect from msn etc. so how would i check the cache .my settings are to close everything when i leave a site .the folders files etc. i don't think i've built up a cache . but i'd be glad to check the remote possibility if someone tells me how. i know 10 yrs i should know about caches. yes but i've never had to empty a cache on any sites & never saw 8 of hearts that weren't there . i do have an eyewitness . i'm not petty . the game needs an overhaul . there`s no doubt about that . the cards spit out on that board ........maybe the fence watched to many maverick programs. now if you saw the Cinn. kid (steve Mcqueen) that pull by edward G is plausible .these outcomes are not. for fun its ok. fencer should have never said i know i made a bad 1st attempt & i now know how to make a crackerjack poker game capish mookster
Fencer: lets say you're right .i suppose you mean this sites cache . how can i tell if you have a legit concern . although i can't see duplicate cards coming out in same hand excusable under any circumstances. but how would i check out your theory?maybe i should have put the beef under bug tracker ??????? mook
Fencer: i don't think so . look 2 pairs , sequences of 3 cards you said you know how to modernize a program which is the pits. your answer is the usual must be my fault . if 2 like cards showed up in a card game in other words 2 8 of hearts & you win hand because of it. you'd have your fingers chopped off if you tried to take that pot in. all i'm saying is you need to revamp what is a bad rng or rnc generator. you made a big point of saying now you know how ,the old program was your 1st try & very flawed. so now i'm asking what you plan on doing about it.? or do i have to be a paid member? (which i've been in the past)& should mean 0 to get an honest answer here. my cache is holding 8 of hearts fencer i'm a senior citizen .i've enjoyed playing cards since i was a lad. never have i seen cards distributed the way the cards come out on this board that goes for the many casinos i have visited etc. you could really make it a great game & fill the tables .i wish i knew programming as i would collaborate with you gladly . well i hope you have the time & inclination to modernize the rcg. if you need aid maybe i can help you by telling you whats wrong with THIS program.be glad to help. mookster .mainly i wanted to make you aware.
i saw a msg stating that now you know how to set up the game properly . inferior players are winning on set ups . calling hands& big bets with a 38 & ending up with a flush .too many pairs on board & open end straights. but worst of all are the setups you programmed in . giving a guy 3 fours & a guy who stayed in with nothing a gut river straight. this happens far too often .i suggest you watch some poker on TV & see the cards that come out in real life. the best card players are not winning as much as they should ...maybe that's the handicap you set up??????????????/anyhow its time you modernized the game even if you have to shut down for a day or 2. i've heard this lament from many a player. this isn't personal of course .just read where you say you know how to properly program the game now . please do ASAP mook53lhd PS or when you can of course tyvm
Fencer: yes do that little thing now that you know. tyvm too .even if you have to shut down a day to do it. guys staying in with 37 pulling straights ,or 4 same suit on flops too often,also way too many pairs . try to make pulling hands indicative to the odds of getting them . i mean forget about filling open end straights .it just don't happen more than 1% of time. the way the cards are coming out players are staying in with terrible cards knowing they still might beat anybody thats in.maybe the stakes on the little tables should be 25-50 to keep out pretenders who go in with garbage .even pre flop bet with same. perhaps your fixing rng & the stakes will create truer to life games. i'm not in any way criticizing just saw the post & wrote what i was thinking early on a sun. morning. i think it was great that you even figured out what we have .so i know you can improve on it mook53lhd
beadle: sounds good to me .also they need to change the random hand generator . the patterns of the board cards needs fixing. also i think you should be able to hold your chair if nature calls etc say 10 min marker. otherwise you come back & you've lost your seat. yes beadle eliminate all but the no limit games ,which is what holdem is all about. maybe more players would gravitate over. who knows? what else you got? mookster