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20. September 2012, 03:45:43
Marshmud 
Subject: Re: It's bout 49% that don't pay Federal taxes.
Artful Dodger: Why is our party having such a time to give us a good leader? Romney makes me hurt where I never thought I could, lol. I think some are afraid to take on the next 4 years and rather see someone else fail.



If we had no debt, like the clinton/ early bush days...we wouldn't even have this type discussion. Now since we do, is our solution to cut all our social programs....or even giving the rich more tax breaks? Its going to take a drastic solution. I just assume some people will just get hostile and riot and destroy property...Guess I just keep stocking ammo. lol

20. September 2012, 03:54:26
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re: It's bout 49% that don't pay Federal taxes.
Marshmud: It's sad that Romney is the best we could do. And sadder that even with the mess that Obama has created the race is still up for grabs. Clinton would be better. Reagan the best.

20. September 2012, 05:28:41
Iamon lyme 
Subject: Re: It's bout 49% that don't pay Federal taxes.
Artful Dodger: Romney's biggest problem right now is the press. If the press took a neutral approach to reporting, instead of covering for Obama while attacking Romney, then I think most Americans wouldn't have a problem seeing Romney as the better choice. The press does have the power to make or break a candidate, especially when polling indicates the race is close.

Actually, polling is another one of those tools used by some in the press to give misleading impressions. I heard of a recent poll giving Obama a slight edge, but then learned Democrats were being over polled by as much as 10%. If Republicans and Democrats were equally represented, that slight edge would disapear... just one more piece of evidence that the press seems to think its their job is to convince the voters who they should vote for. If I'm remembering correctly I believe the press has been called the fourth estate, because they have taken on the role of "king maker".

20. September 2012, 06:11:03
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re: It's bout 49% that don't pay Federal taxes.
Iamon lyme: I think that's exactly right. If Obama makes a slip up, they say nothing. If Romney farts, it's all over the news for weeks. I've seen Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz caught in a lie and when confronted, she lied about it. When a video was played showing she lied, she still lied and denied. And the press lets her get away with it. Only Fox confronted her.

20. September 2012, 17:30:04
rod03801 
Subject: Re: It's bout 49% that don't pay Federal taxes.
Modified by rod03801 (20. September 2012, 17:31:00)
Iamon lyme: I see disaster if Obama wins. He already does things against the constitution, and gets away with it! What will he do in a 2nd term when he doesn't have to worry about re-election!!??
And this is not a baseless fear, as you may recall that microphone that was on (and he didn't know it) when he was talking to some foreign leader, and basically said, wait until after the election, then we can do such n such. (I don't recall the details off the top of my head)
He has to be pushed out!

To me, there are SO many things Romney should be doing, but isn't! He should be reminding people of things like this!

20. September 2012, 17:35:15
Mort 
Subject: Re: wait until after the election, then we can do such n such. (I don't recall the details off the top of my head)
rod03801: Rod, politicians make deals with leaders of other countries all the time. Before politicians it was the royals, or port owners who collected a royalty.

20. September 2012, 20:56:15
rod03801 
Subject: Re: wait until after the election, then we can do such n such. (I don't recall the details off the top of my head)
Modified by rod03801 (20. September 2012, 20:57:05)
(V): Of course you're missing the point. He said it with the meaning that after the election, he doesn't have to be concerned about the public's opinion.

You really DO need to debate EVERYTHING, don't you?

20. September 2012, 20:59:15
Mort 
Subject: Re: wait until after the election, then we can do such n such. (I don't recall the details off the top of my head)
rod03801: I do when you CAN'T REMEMBER THE DETAILS.

It leads it very much open to debate.. or even an opinion!!

20. September 2012, 22:02:47
Iamon lyme 
Subject: Re: wait until after the election, then we can do such n such. (I don't recall the details off the top of my head)
(V): [ I do when you CAN'T REMEMBER THE DETAILS. ]

You need a detailed (all encompassing) description (explanation) of what a lame (limping) duck (quack) presidency means (entails) ? (question mark)

When someone has been re-elected (for a second term [four years] as president [executive leader] ), it means they can't (are not allowed to) run (campaign) for president (executive leader) again (repeating previous action) after the next (following) 4 (1, 2, 3, 4) more (in addition to the previous) years has expired (croaked) . (period, end of sentence)

21. September 2012, 02:15:30
Mort 
Subject: Re: wait until after the election, then we can do such n such. (I don't recall the details off the top of my head)
Iamon lyme: So you can't be bothered to see, ok. I know it won't support your case so that's fine.

21. September 2012, 02:42:32
Vikings 
Subject: Re: wait until after the election, then we can do such n such. (I don't recall the details off the top of my head)
(V): It was president Putin.

21. September 2012, 09:30:56
Mort 
Subject: Re: wait until after the election, then we can do such n such. (I don't recall the details off the top of my head)
Vikings: Cheers, I might be able to find out what all the fuss is about now.

20. September 2012, 21:09:40
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re: wait until after the election, then we can do such n such. (I don't recall the details off the top of my head)
rod03801: He does and then he blames the other for not being specifc enough - even when he's the king of ambiquity.

20. September 2012, 21:16:12
Mort 
Subject: Re: even when he's the king of ambiquity.
Artful Dodger: .. I'm a prince and I am Funky.. never a king.. I am prince the one and only.

20. September 2012, 21:42:49
Iamon lyme 
Subject: Re: even when he's the king of ambiquity.
(V): [Iamon lyme: So that's where the 'knickers in twist' troll got to!! Sorry.. someone tried to eradicate the Hogs Father... caused chaos ]



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21. September 2012, 02:14:12
Mort 
Subject: Re: even when he's the king of ambiquity.
Iamon lyme: Yes... it's goofy!!

20. September 2012, 21:30:38
Iamon lyme 
Subject: Re: wait until after the election, then we can do such n such. (I don't recall the details off the top of my head)
Artful Dodger: Master maze builder my smelly #@%!! Who would be stupid enough to follow a cost of wedding path? (millions are not trillions)

20. September 2012, 05:02:05
Iamon lyme 
Subject: Re: It's bout 49% that don't pay Federal taxes.
Marshmud: Just because Romney isn't another Reagan doesn't mean he can't start to turn things around. And Art is correct when he says anyone would be better than Obama. If Obama is re-elected (it could happen) my hope would be that he spends all of his time playing golf and flying off to one place or another, and if not that then just sitting in the Oval office tossing crumpled up pieces of paper into the waste paper basket or chatting with Oprah or playing with his kids... anyway, you get the picture.

I would like for things to rapidly turn around, but I know that won't happen with any next new leader. The problems we have are too big for anything resembling a quick fix, but frankly I think the worst we could expect from Romney is that he could stop the bleeding... right now that's good enough for me. Stop the bleeding, and let the country start to recover.

20. September 2012, 05:10:39
Bwild 
Subject: Re: It's bout 49% that don't pay Federal taxes.
Iamon lyme: " Stop the bleeding, and let the country start to recover." a big thumbs up there!

20. September 2012, 17:30:34
Marshmud 
Subject: Re: It's bout 49% that don't pay Federal taxes.
Iamon lyme:
" Stop the bleeding, and let the country start to recover."

A very good point. I hope the undecided feel that way.

20. September 2012, 19:41:07
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re:" Stop the bleeding, and let the country start to recover."
Marshmud: I think we borrow something like 4 billion a day.

20. September 2012, 05:08:59
Bwild 
Subject: Re: It's bout 49% that don't pay Federal taxes.
Marshmud: isnt social security taxable income?

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