Is there any recourse for when one player in a tournament takes FOREVER to finish his/her games?
Example: http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?tri=48543#1
View my game with the "culprit" and you'll see how maddening it is to have to wait 3-4 days between moves.
John Baker

He didn't cheat. He was unrated right before getting that high rating. He most likely didn't even KNOW how high his rating would end up being when he got one. There is no cheating involved!

LOL it dosn"t matter to me.Ican beat most of the players here anyway.But its not fare for the ones with lower ratings.When it is stated at a certain Rating.Its pretty bad when you got to cheat to win a tournament

BIG BAD WOLF: Yeah.. I have never understood why there would be an option to make a tournament where someone has to be over a certain bkr, yetr still allow unrated players in, especially as a default setup?

Anyway... I think you have it correct BBW

THE HIT MAN: huh?

He got his 4th game complete on September 19th - that was less then 2 days ago. All it took was for him to sign up for the tournament BEFORE 2 days ago and it would allow him to do it.

I'm sorry if you do not understand this.

BIG BAD WOLF: sorry WOLF he sighed in long before it started.He had that rating when he sighed in .Get off the crap.Whats this certain people can do what they want and others can't.

THE HIT MAN: He just recently got a rating - and the tournament was setup to accept unrated players - he stayed unrated until his fourth game

... so he probable signed up while still unrated and sliped in that way. The only thing to do is have the tournament creator create a tournament that does not allow unrated to join, or have the tournament creator remove anyone over the limit before the tournament starts. But once it starts... it's too late.

THE HIT MAN: doesnt seem right....

zahrat si {Czech Checkers
Creator Slavka
Players Rating 100=BKR=1800

Socrates sighed into game with 2222BKR


How does this happen,because if i am over BKR i can not sigh into game

This tournament was just started,

Bry: Great advice Bry!

eagle eye/Gemini J: Then you could join the 2 pond tournements for new members

eagle eye / Gemini J: Correct. The next round will not start until all games have been completed, even if both sections have outright winners already. That's the way it has always been.

If you are in the tournament and will not win it, and therefore will not progress to the next round, if you ask Fencer nicely - and copy the link to the tournament, he will sometimes be able to "release" you from it so you can enter another tournament.

The other alternative, is to purchase a "Rook" membership, where everything is unlimited. You will not be disappointed with the facilities a "Rook" membership has to offer - and no more "waiting" for tournaments to finish.... ;)

GEMINI J: I guess this is the way it works... comments anybody, Fencer?

I am in a tournament where there is two groups the winner in both has been settled, i take it that they cant play each other untill all the games are completed by the rest of the group, even though no one can catch the leaders up! seems a little unfair to have to wait for meaningless matches

Since there has been a recent influx of new members here, I have created 2 new pond tournemants,1 for new (unrated) players only and 1 for new players and those with a rating under 1900 and unrated, Rember there is a disscussion board for this game http://brainking.com/en/Board?bc=77 and many players are usually willing to give advice
the games are http://brainking.com/en/Pond?g=1304&trnst=0
http://brainking.com/en/Pond?g=1303&trnst=0

Only about 10 days to sign up for BrainKing's 3rd Birthday Tournaments - How cool would it be if we can get at least 4 players in every game! (Which a game needs at least 4 players to start.)

Also to start a few days after that, is the next "dummies" tournament for players with ratings of 1500 or less. (Everyone higher will be thrown out before it starts)

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►►►►► Happy 3rd Birthday BrainKing ◄◄◄◄◄ - This is set to start on September 26 - which just happens to be pretty close to BrainKing's 3rd Birthday. All Games. Would be cool if we could get enough players to play in each game type! (That would be at least 4 for each game type)

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►ALL games for dummies (under 1500 & unrated) #11◄ - Set to start on September 30th, this is the 11th "Dummies" tournament.

This tournament is for players rated BELOW 1500, or unrated - so it give a good chance for players to try new games.... without being "killed" by expert players.

BIG BAD WOLF: Thanks BBW, that seems to be the only answer that makes sense. Just wanted to be sure before I invite them to a tournament with more than one section.

Mobius: Next rounds will always start for a pawn - even if it takes them OVER their limit. (They just will not be able to start any new games until they get back under their limit.)

What happens if pawns advance to the next round but do not have the available games?

fungame:OH, I think that is a given at this point!

ClayNashvilleTn:
Translated: If ***Bry's Backgammon Fellowship*** doesn't lose in 2 matches - doesn't seem very likely now, then BrainKingSupporters have no chance to advance in this team tournament.

BIG BAD WOLF: Then does that mean I would receive a higher score if I beat someone with a higher BKR?

ClayNashvilleTn: For team tournaments - POINTS is what decides who wins.

If 2 (or more) teams have the same amount of points, then it looks at the score (which is wins & loses) - and the team with the most wins is then the winner.

So there has been in the past a team which had the highest amount of wins & score, but was just short in points - so lost.

Thanks

On the tournament tables, what is the difference in points and score. Which decides winner?

Not that it matters though

http://brainking.com/cz/Tournaments?trg=11125&trnst=0

Cornucopia

Splish Splash

Midnight Skinny ~Dip 3

Rockpool Fandango

Even More Scrabble

Anyone who wants to join in is welcome to do so.

prettymama: Check out these 2 links:

http://brainking.com/game/FAQ?ht=20

http://brainking.com/game/FAQ?ht=24

how does this time out n vacation time work becouse i'm play a tournie n the person i'm playing timeout last week got more time everyday sense i checked his vacation time on saturday said he had 0 days left yesterday it said 5 days today it says 6 day just how does this work?

Following addresse is an true example for the Dom Perignon Backgammon Team Tournament for interested friends.

http://brainking.com/en/TeamTournaments?tri=49&trnst=10&p=0


When tournament page comes to screen, look for the section 2.
At this section find the BrainKingSupporters.
At the row of the BrainKingSupporters, you'll see:

1- The number of team BrainKingSupporters (it is #2 for BrainKingSupporters)
2- The name of team BrainKingSupporters and when you click on it, the fellowship page comes to screen.
3- After the team pictures and BKRs of the team, you'll see all the results of the opponent teams in the cells like '3:1'. The means of the number at the left is your total team wins, at the right is your total team losses.
4- If you wish to see the results of the games on the player base, follow to reading. I advise you bring your mouse pointer over the result numbers (on the '-'. Then, you'll see the mouse pointer changed to 'hand sign'. At this position click to 'right' mouse button for opening a new browser page and see the team players at this new page. You can use this move on the previous page as much as you need.
5- On this matched players page, at the middle of players in any row; the number of two games (which is clickable -preferable- with the right button of your mouse) are ready to see the game. The ended game scores (if any), you'll see them under the clickable game numbers.
6- If you clicked on any game number, the page of this game comes to screen. After the seeing the situation, you may wish to write some things to your team friend (like an advice or support), on the game page, click on the letter icon at the right of your team player's name. Warning! please don't forget to write the game info in your message. This message is only readable from the message owner.

I hope it helps!

myfanwy: Thank you too

rod03801: Ie, that's what I meant!

rod03801: Thanks for the info. Back to the drawing board! LOL

2nd in average BKR of the team, actually..

It is ordered just like regular tournaments, Clay.. and as myfawny says, the team with the most wins, wins..

ClayNashvilleTn: It's not a league table as such. You just have to have more points than any other team when all the games are played. I think you're second alphabetically.

DUMB QUESTION TIME: Our team 'BrainKingSupporters' is in the 2.nd row of 2.nd section of 'Don Perignon Backgammon Tournament'

Must we finish 1st to keep from being eliminated?

Bry: Actually as a side note, since the "digs" were pointed towards me, I do not like to moderate those types of posts since it would seem too much like I was "abusing" my power to help myself (Unless it is CLEARLY over the lines). But don't worry - I can handle the idiots who like the bring up the same subject every few months since they apparently can not read my profile, or remember what was said last time.

Pioneer54: The 5 moderators are not online, but 2 GM's are.

The posts are "on topic" as such as they are regarding moves made in tournaments.

If you seriously expect such posts to be moderated, where do we stop? You cant please anyone. If the posts were un suitable, BBW, as a GM and the brunt of the conversation, is big enough and bad enough (excuse the pun!) to take the matter elsewhere or put an end to it. Plus Purple is correct.

I read reams and reams of posts cluttered with comments i dont care for, but that's life, it's a discussion board.

Just my opinion.

The Global Moderator Not A Floosie gave a warning and it stopped right there. Sufficient I think.

Fencer: Where, pray tell, are the FIVE 'Moderators' that are supposed to be moderating this site?

I ususlly enjoy reading this board, but lately it has become too cluttered with comments by Pedro Martinez, ChuckChuckers, & BBW about BBW's slow play and/or other activities. I like these players, but would not this bickering be better done among them with PMs? If not, how is all of this relevant to tournaments?

Salkkuman: I'm not sure if "open" is the right attribute since the tournament is private [invitations only]. Anyway, if you want to make a link, just copy and paste the tournament URL and BrainKing will convert it to a link automatically. Like this: http://brainking.com/cz/Tournaments?trg=11149&tri=58777

Finnish server chess open starts 11.11 it should become strongest chess tournament here ever. PM me that you are strong and i invite you. Where can i read how to do that link?

Andre Faria: and Purple.. Thank you.

All tournaments have time limits for players. Check the time limit before you enter tournaments. If you prefer faster tournaments then pick tournaments with shorter time limits. If you choose to play slower, pick tournaments with longer time limits.

Further discussions complaining about people and the time limit of tournaments or games need to be taken privately with that person.....unless you prefer to be put on hide.

Pedro Martínez: My point exactly.... too much on his plate. Seems he cares more about being a glob and playing on these boards than the tournaments he has committed to. Maybe his upcoming vacation will help clear his head? When are you going to be gone BBW? I dont think you actually said that?

BIG BAD WOLF: It's just amazing that on a game site, it takes you less than an hour to reply to my post with such a long one, yet more than 11 months to complete an anti-froglet or small-espionage game or more than 10 months to complete a backgammon game.

Pedro Martínez: Well since you are unable to read a persons profile, you would know that when asked - I will try to play games faster if needed and asked, but trying to make a point on a public board is not asking nicely now... is it? Czuch - you have to be smarted then that. It takes at least at a very minimum 15 days to finish a pond, and many more days for bigger ponds or longer day ponds - and you can very simply Look at my ratings chart and tell I started to slow down in games (Chart starts to have less "points") when my rating was in the 2300-2400 range, long from the #1 rating in the game - WHICH I'm not number 1 - PLUS I'm still playing in active games and even though I never said I was stoping - just not playing in as many which I still have active ponds I'm playing in, and will be starting more once those are complete. Even though all this I have said before, but since you are not smart enough to remember either - I will repeat it all again. When I started getting so many games, I had plenty of time to play and was able to keep up with games. With a new job and other things in my private life, my on-line game playing time has went down and have been unable to play as quickly So many games were started when I had time, and unfortunatly were not complete before my on-line time went down. It is not news that I'm now not a quick player - it is a fact that I openly admit - and is something that I openly admit in my profile. I find it very funny that in one week, I have one person telling me I'm not playing enough - then have another player - ALONG WITH THE SAME FIRST PLAYER - telling me I'm playing too much.

*EDIT: First took out the "idiots" comment since some might take it as I'm trying to call Pedro an idiot, which I did not mean it as an insult - so I removed it.

*ADDITION: For Czuch: Since you may not know how to work the charts, MY POND CHART FOR MY LAST 20 OR SO PONDS - as you can see, when I started to slow down, I was not close to the #1 position, and even diped to 2100 at one point. If you can not understand the chart, please PM me and I can try to explain them to you.... since I know they can be a little tricky.

You received not 0 but something less than 1.

And it´s because of UE low rating comparing to yours, not because he timed out.

Pbarb2: I am just guessing but I imagine the win/lose point projections were at the time the game began and was markedly different at the end as both of your BKR's had changed.

I received this and would like to know why I got 0 points. This one timed out in our game. And then I get this ..
Your opponent ran out of time (Hyper Backgammon) (show game)
You are the winner.
Pbarb2: old BKR = 2004, new BKR = 2004 (0)
Universal Eyes: old BKR = 944, new BKR = 942 (-2)
Game type: Hyper Backgammon
Tournament: Big Time Backgammon
Ok question is this..Why is it zero when if I won it I would get 15 or lose 15 if I lost. To me this tells me that anyone can time out and you can't get ahead in your ratings. He only lost 2 for timing out.
Example:If he times out in 10 of my games I have nothing to gain. Is this fair? He timed out in quite a few. But why should I or anyone be the one to suffer for a time out.
Note: I am not just picking out UE. It has happened with others before..also. It is just that UE happens to be the one in this case.