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Ask questions or just talk about different languages. Since BrainKing is an international game site supporting many languages, this board can be kind of useful.

Since we will be dealing with pronunciation of words rather than their spelling, I think it's useful to have a link to The sounds of English and the International Phonetic Alphabet.


To see translations of some frequently used phrases and sentences in other languages see Languages


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10. Juli 2006, 14:32:59
yoyudax 
Emne: Re: Player's Dictionary
Fencer: Fantastic. Thank you. Fencer I have a question for you...do you ever sleep?...lol Great job.

10. Juli 2006, 14:20:10
pauloaguia 
Emne: Re: Player's Dictionary
yoyudax: Top left corner, under the flags in the "(more about languages)" link.

10. Juli 2006, 14:12:12
Hrqls 
Emne: Re: Player's Dictionary
Fencer: nice!

maybe another idea would be to have the poster place the code in between a certain code which then would be parsed by the site when someone reads it and shown in the language they have selected to view the site

for example you post [lang]"diky"[/lang] and i would read "dank u wel"
(the site will see you write in czech as you have czech selected as your language, so it looks up your text in the czech list, and then translates it to dutch as thats the language i have selected

it might be tough though as the site wont find "diky" in the czech list as its missing some accents .. and therefore would still show it as "diky" to me as its unknown to the site :)

10. Juli 2006, 13:32:49
yoyudax 
Emne: Re: Player's Dictionary
pauloaguia: Where can we find it?

10. Juli 2006, 12:18:11
pauloaguia 
Emne: Re: Player's Dictionary
Fencer: I still think that my suggestion in the Features Request board would look nicer. But if you really want to stick to the table layouts then maybe alternating background colors could help ("Good Luck" in white, "Thank you" in grey, "Enjoy the game" in white, etc)

10. Juli 2006, 12:13:49
Fencer 
Emne: Re: Player's Dictionary
pauloaguia: I've just made a small visual change, otherwise the page would be too wide when all languages are filled.

10. Juli 2006, 12:07:23
pauloaguia 
Emne: Re: Player's Dictionary
Another suggestions:

  • I don't really speak this language.. I think this may come in handy when someone replies to you in the language you used and you don't know what they're saying.
  • Going on holidays. Won't play for a while.
  • Could you please make a move on game abc?

10. Juli 2006, 11:46:41
pauloaguia 
Emne: Player's Dictionary
Looks like Fencer already took care of it.

Efficient, as allways *135*

9. Juli 2006, 14:00:35
King Reza 
Emne: Re: Great...ok I will start
yoyudax:Not a problem at all.  I'll wait for about a week or two until we have a thorough list, then I'll put all of the items in one single post and then we'll start translating.

9. Juli 2006, 13:43:22
yoyudax 
Emne: Great...ok I will start
Here are some of the things I have wanted to communicate. Hello, Thank you, very good game, congratulations, would you like to play again, nice move.......sorry it such a short list but it is early and I have just taken my first sip of coffee.

9. Juli 2006, 13:42:44
toedder 
Emne: Re:
King Reza: Yes! Having different posts is way better than having a thread, because in a thread the posts get so small ;)

Ok, let's start listing:

Good Luck
Thank you
Have fun/Enjoy the game
Good game
Congratulations
Nice move
I enjoyed the game
It was fun playing with you
See you
Hello
Good night

... to be continued (and ordered) :)

9. Juli 2006, 13:30:52
King Reza 
Emne: Re:
Mr. Shumway: Sure thing.  Let's first have a list of what people may want to know in every language, and when the list is complete, each native speaker of a language can create a post and give us the equivalents.  And I'll put the links up here!

9. Juli 2006, 11:56:31
toedder 
Emne: Re:
Walter Montego: It would even be better to put the link to a thread, not to a post! Then we could split it up in different posts. One post for each phrase or one post for each language. I personally think that one for each language would be more comfortable for searching. Also every post could then be made by a native speaker, so that they wouldn't have to be updated by Reza one by one. We would have a representative for every language :)
Great idea, yoyoudax :)

9. Juli 2006, 07:35:57
Walter Montego 
Emne: Re:
yoyudax: It's easy enough to do here without too many tricks. You put into a post box just like this one the things you want in it. Then King Reza puts a link to it in the title or header at the top of this page. Then all of us can view the page and it can be updated or added to as more phrases come up.

8. Juli 2006, 20:00:02
yoyudax 
Emne: Re: a multi-language online BK dictionary..
nobleheart: Thanx nobleheart. I will check that link out.

8. Juli 2006, 19:59:18
yoyudax 
Emne: Re:
King Reza: How could we go about setting something like that up? It sure would be nice to know that my opponent knew that I appreciated the chance to play with them or that I thought they played an awesome game.

8. Juli 2006, 19:52:05
nobleheart 
Emne: a multi-language online BK dictionary..
...for a few simple conversational phrases ...that would be a good idea.
I use an online one,but it only translates a word at a time:
http://www.ectaco.co.uk/English-Multilanguage-Dictionary/

8. Juli 2006, 17:45:44
King Reza 
Emne: Re:
yoyudax:No there isn't.  But I guess I agree that it's a useful list.  Maybe we can make one here.

8. Juli 2006, 17:43:18
yoyudax 
Is there is a list at BK of how to say certain phrases like "GOOD GAME" OR "CONGATULATIONS" etc, in all or some of the languages used here. If not it would be a worthwhile list to compile.

8. Juli 2006, 15:43:58
Pedro Martínez 
Emne: Re:
Matarilevich: Yes, both were official languages.

8. Juli 2006, 14:52:40
Kili 
The Czech Republic and Slovakia were a state some years ago. Both languages were official idioms? 

8. Juli 2006, 12:07:16
Pedro Martínez 
Emne: Re: Does anybpdy know what this means
WatfordFC: It's Slovak. "Now you'll tell me that you speak Czech or Slovak, huh! I wouldn't be surprised."

7. Juli 2006, 21:09:28
Adaptable Ali 
Emne: Does anybpdy know what this means
este my povedz že vies česky alebo slovensky! Ani by som sa nečudoval.

7. Juli 2006, 04:38:06
nobleheart 

3. Juli 2006, 14:33:02
King Reza 
Emne: Re:
Czuch Czuckers:That's what it sounds like to me too.  I'd ask the second question --What do you think is the cure for cancer?-- indeed with a stress on YOU.

3. Juli 2006, 14:28:50
Czuch 
Emne: Re:
Hrqls: That makes some sense... its probably one of those that are a toss up. i suppose there are some native speakers where it sounds strange to them the other way around, what seems normal to me.

3. Juli 2006, 13:02:40
Hrqls 
Emne: Re:
King Reza: to my (non native english ears) the sentence 'What do you think is the cure for cancer?' puts more emphasis the word 'you' (or at least it asks more directly what 'you' think while the other sentence asks more about the cure for cancer

but thats just a feeling :)

3. Juli 2006, 10:43:46
King Reza 
Emne: Re:
KotDB: Thanks for your reply.  Yeah, good suggestion about that throne!

2. Juli 2006, 21:11:00
Peón Libre 
Emne: Re:
King Reza: Both are correct, and both sound fine to this native speaker.

Also, if you should ever need to discuss Louis VI's throne and you want to avoid that string of consonants, you could of course say, "It's the throne of Louis the Sixth."

2. Juli 2006, 16:13:50
King Reza 
Emne: Re:
Czuch Czuckers:What would I do without you natives, man!  Thanks.

2. Juli 2006, 16:04:37
Czuch 
Emne: Re:
King Reza: The first sentence is correct, the second one is probably also correct,, but it just doesnt sound right to a native speaker.

2. Juli 2006, 13:49:03
King Reza 
I am fully aware of how embeded questions are made, like:

Do you know?
What time is it?

Do you know what time it is ?

B
ut I heard a sentence in a movie : What do you think the cure for cancer is?

I think at least in this very example, the other option is possible too.  So it can be said as:

What do you think is the cure for cancer?

Am I right?

29. Juni 2006, 12:32:03
Doris 
Emne: Re:
King Reza: lol Yes, that would be embarrassing..:} however, it would be rare that those consonants would come together in normal conversation. Just in case they do...LOL..say you learned the word from a Southerner...everyone knows that the South has their own language and their own way of pronouncing words..:}

29. Juni 2006, 11:54:13
King Reza 
Emne: Re:
Doris:  How tough English sometimes becomes!  All I need in the middle of talking to an important person there in the U.S., is having to use that sentence with those consonants!

29. Juni 2006, 11:25:49
Doris 
Emne: Re:
King Reza: Yes, they are all pronounced...:} Not easily, even for me....more like a tongue twister..lol :}

29. Juni 2006, 11:03:38
King Reza 
Tilpasset af King Reza (29. Juni 2006, 11:04:16)
Last night I came by a sentence like this:

It's Lui the sixth's throne.

I was wondering if the native speakers really pronounce all the 5 consonants that I have shown in red.  It's really difficult for me to pronounce them all, though not impossible.  I really have to concentrate to pronounce them fully and without a mistake!

14. Juni 2006, 20:17:03
Fiona 
Emne: Re: A huge thank you to PhatPlaya for the translation
Walter Montego: no i dont have a link to the picture but anybody who is curious feel free to pm me your email addy and i will send it to you. its just characters on the picture and no author name as it was bought from a large D.I.Y store where hundreds of them were there and i just bought it to fill a blank space on my wall as i liked the style of it and it tied in well with my colour scheme

14. Juni 2006, 20:10:23
Walter Montego 
Emne: Re: A huge thank you to PhatPlaya for the translation
Fiona: Cool. Do you have a link to the picture for us to see it while reading this translation? Was redsales in on the translation too? Does it mean anything, or is it just art with the characters? Have you tried tracking done the author or creator of it and seeing what his meaning of it is?

14. Juni 2006, 20:05:33
Fiona 
Emne: A huge thank you to PhatPlaya for the translation
this was the translation he gave me - at least i can tell anyone who asks what it means now


The large character in the red circle
The calligraphy of this character is a little unusual. Usually characters in good Chinese calligraphy are supposed to fit inside a square. I looked through the different databases because the character was hard to find. The closes I could come up with was:
有, yǒu, to have, to possess (complex pictograph of a right hand grasping the abundance of the moon)

The white characters inside the circle
土, tǔ, earth, soil (pictograph of an object rising through the earth)
水, shuǐ, water, river (pictograph of streams flowing together)
木, mù, tree, wood (pictograph of a tree)
食, Shí, food, eat (complex pictograph containing the pictographs for gather, rice and spoon)

The red characters in the vertical stamp
The only unusual character was the second one from the top. That character seems to be the pictograph for fire.
木, mù, tree, wood (pictograph of a tree)
火, huǒ, fire (pictograph of rising flames)
水, shuǐ, water, river (pictograph of streams flowing together)
食, Shí, food, eat (complex pictograph containing the pictographs for gather, rice and spoon)

11. Juni 2006, 20:45:00
Fiona 
thank you Walter and Pedro - i have received a message from phatplayer and have emailed him the pics - i will keep you informed what they say when he gets back to me.

Thank you both for your help in this matter.

Fiona

11. Juni 2006, 17:48:30
Walter Montego 
Emne: Re: chinese translator please
Pedro Martínez: I asked him indirectly through his friend phatplayer. Between the two of them I'm sure they'll have it. Phatplayer said he wrote to her just a few minutes ago, so when she comes on they should be able to make the connection. She's made me curious as to what it might say or mean.

11. Juni 2006, 17:35:16
Pedro Martínez 
Emne: Re: chinese translator please
Fiona: Ask redsales. He's a pro at Chinese and nice person, I'm sure he'll help you. :)

11. Juni 2006, 17:16:52
Walter Montego 
Emne: Re: chinese translator please
Fiona: I've asked a couple people if they can do the translation for you. It might be hard since art can be anything, especially if stylized for looks. Reza had a link to some old Persian art that was neat looking, but made of writing. It will take someone fluent in Chinese to give it a go if it's anything like that.

I have the feeling those translation machines are really bad at Chinese to English. :)

11. Juni 2006, 08:08:14
Expired 
Hi all. Fortunately I have found an internet cafe not very far from our house, but still I'm too lazy to go there everyday. So I'll be online from time to time just checking my message box and playing in the few games that I have left unresigned.

I've added Walter as a moderator just in case none is available to moderate the board. Have fun.

10. Juni 2006, 22:00:21
Fiona 
Emne: chinese translator please
Hi, i am just wondering if anybody can translate chinese as when i decorated my lounge i found some nice wall-art which has symbols on it and i have always wondered what it says or means. If anybody can help please can you pm me your email address and i will email the pics of the art i am on about

Hope somebody can help me

thanks
Fiona

9. Juni 2006, 14:59:36
Pedro Martínez 
Emne: Re: English to Czesc
Marfitalu: Please don't trust any computer-based translations. They all suck. Correct translation:

"Protože už Tě nechci otravovat s mými nabídkami remízy, nebudu už Ti posílat další, ale chci, abys věděl, že pro mě je tato hra stoprocentní remíza."

9. Juni 2006, 14:56:02
Pedro Martínez 
Emne: Re: English to Czesc
hexkid: Let me translate it back into English:

"Since that time I ne a need all the way to agony you with my remíza offer, I he will not to send you more a offer into to, so not I afford you vŘdŘt to me this chase je clear one remíza."

9. Juni 2006, 11:51:38
hexkid 
Emne: Re: English to Czesc
Marfitalu: Result from online translator (InterTran box):
Od té doby JÁ don't potřeba až k trápení tebe s má draw nabídka , JÁ nebude poslat tebe více nabídka do aby , aby ne JÁ dovolit tebe vŘdŘt aby do mne tato honba is jasný jeden draw.

8. Juni 2006, 09:08:17
harley 
Emne: Re:
Czuch Chuckers: Good point!!

8. Juni 2006, 00:28:59
Czuch 
Emne: Re:
Tilpasset af Czuch (8. Juni 2006, 00:30:25)
harley: Sure it is....

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