BrainKing - Diskussionsborde (BrainKing.com)

Emne: Re: memory laspe again..lol

Snoopy: Well, it counts as a single result - but unfortunally, it's a "winner takes all" kind of result. It doesn't matter whether you win a match 1-0 (single game), 15-0 or 11-10.

This is unlike (ELO) chess ratings. There the rating difference between players A and B would, for instance, say that in a 10 game match, A is expected to win 7-3. If A wins the match 6-4, A would actually lose rating points (and B would win rating points).

This is why I seldomly play matches.

16. Januar 2009, 17:28:51

Emne: Re: memory laspe again..lol

rod03801: ah i meant in a 10 win match do all 10 games count by themselves or all together but i think youve just answered my question

16. Januar 2009, 17:26:47

Emne: Re: memory laspe again..lol

Snoopy: I don't know what you mean. But basically, you need to consider any sort of match as the single entity that matters.

16. Januar 2009, 17:24:18

Emne: Re: memory laspe again..lol

rod03801: so does that include game types to?

16. Januar 2009, 17:21:53

Emne: Re: memory laspe again..lol

Snoopy: Just the final results of the match affect BKR

16. Januar 2009, 16:55:17

Emne: memory laspe again..lol

in say a 3 win match do all games count has a win for BKR
or is it just if you win the finished match?

14. Januar 2009, 13:55:45

Emne: Ideas for new games.

The site Setup Group has information (and rules) about quite a number of perfect information games. Some of them are already found on Brainking, but many aren't. Most of them have quite simple rules, and won't require new graphics if they were implemented here.

Perhaps Fencer will get some inspiration and surprise us with some new games in the future.

14. Januar 2009, 00:06:09

Pedro Martínez

Emne: Re: Finished Games

pauloaguia: Go to your profile and click "Finished Games". Scroll down and take a look at the table displaying your last 10 games. In your 2-win Lines of Action match with The Saint, you see that you played as Black and you won. When you click the game, you can see that you were playing as Black in the last game.

As for the Horde Chess, I think it's better to look at this page. You can clearly see there how many draws there have been and you can easily find them in players' profiles. Or, you can download all the Horde Chess games from the Rules page.

13. Januar 2009, 23:45:07

Emne: Re: Finished Games

Pedro Martínez: Why do you say that? It says you won the game, not that black won...
Also, Horde Chess is one of the most biased games in the site. Because of that many people choose to play it as 2 games matches to be fair for both players. Often these 2 games matches end in a draw (1 win for each player).
Yet, in the statistics, the number of draws is very small... Most of them probably from agreement between the players.

13. Januar 2009, 18:51:16

Pedro Martínez

Emne: Re: Finished Games

rod03801: I guess so.

13. Januar 2009, 18:46:45

Emne: Re: Finished Games

Pedro Martínez: Yeah, it must credit the win to whatever color the winner was in the last game of the match?

13. Januar 2009, 18:27:52

Pedro Martínez

Emne: Re: Finished Games

Tilpasset af Pedro Martínez (13. Januar 2009, 18:28:19)

pauloaguia: I believe Abigail is right. This game, I mean match, for example, is taken as a win for the Black.

13. Januar 2009, 18:21:05

Emne: Re: Finished Games

AbigailII: Brainking reports the match as a draw and your BKR is calculated based on match results.
However, those statistics are color based statistics. I'm guessing they refer to game results rather than match results...

But I'm sure Fencer will enlighten us...

13. Januar 2009, 17:50:29

Emne: Re: Finished Games

AbigailII: I think he means that in a 2 game match, isn't it supposed to switch colors in the 2nd game? So if you were black in one game of the match, you would be white in the other game of the match. So he is wondering which color that would be classified as a win for, if one person won both games.

I had originally answered the same way as you, but then I re-read it.

13. Januar 2009, 17:46:04

Emne: Re: Finished Games

pauloaguia: I've played many 2-game matches where both sides have won one game. Brainking always reports them as a draw. It counts as a single game when calculating BKR. So, I assume it's counted as a 'draw' in the statistics on the rules page as well.

13. Januar 2009, 17:35:35

Emne: Re: Finished Games

AbigailII: Actually I think it's the number of won games.
If not, in a 2 game match, how would you count it if a player won both games? As a black victory or a white victory?

13. Januar 2009, 15:49:54

Hrqls

Emne: Re: Finished Games

AbigailII: true ... i forgot about that ... i dont think anywhere in the statistics or profiles you can see the separate games

13. Januar 2009, 14:46:09

Emne: Re: Finished Games

Hrqls: Actually, that number gives you the number of finished matches. If you and I play a '9 win match', and you win 9 games, I win 8, and we have 7 draws, it counts for just 1 in the statistics, but we have played 24 games.

13. Januar 2009, 10:28:16

MrWCF

Emne: Re: Finished Games

Hrqls: Thank you!

13. Januar 2009, 09:40:12

Hrqls

Emne: Re: Finished Games

MrWCF: at the top of the game rules is a box with Statistics of won games ... add up those 3 numbers and you have the total

i am not sure if games which were finished (give up, or time out) within 2 moves are in there as well .. neither am i sure if unrated games are in there .. i dont think games which dont count for the win statistics of a player are in there

13. Januar 2009, 09:27:33

MrWCF

Emne: Finished Games

Is there any place on the site where I can see the total number of finished games of a particular type?

I see where I can get the total number of running games of a particualr type. And I see where I can get the number of games of a particular type finished by each of the 50 most active players. But I can't see where I can get the total number of finished games of a particular type.

11. Januar 2009, 13:04:28

Mousetrap

Emne: Airmiles

What a shame we cant collect airmiles while playing games

10. Januar 2009, 20:33:11

Binabik

Emne: Re: translation

Tilpasset af Binabik (10. Januar 2009, 20:51:35)

trohat: Thank you Trohat!
I tried the second link and it works beautifully!

10. Januar 2009, 19:47:36

trohat

Emne: Re: translation

Binabik: http://brainking.info/archives/520-ImTranslator.html or http://brainking.info/archives/521-gTranslate-and-more-BKR-change-estimations.html ... or just post it on some Czech discussion board and we will translate it for you

10. Januar 2009, 17:49:46

Binabik

Emne: translation

Some time ago I think someone mentioned a link(?) to go to in order to translate a conversation - I've looked through BK and on the net but have trouble finding one that helps me.... one of my opponents is having a one-sided conversation with me since I don't speak Czech.... could someone help me please? Thanks!

8. Januar 2009, 14:33:21

SL-Mark

Emne: What have we learnt?

alanback: "Never underestimate the ingenuity of an idiot"
Equally, "Never attribute to ingenuity that which can be explained away by stupidity"

8. Januar 2009, 01:17:41

alanback

Emne: Re:

nodnarbo:If that's the case, he must not read these boards carefully! We have some steel-jacketed, armor-piercing idiots on this site!

8. Januar 2009, 00:52:27

nodnarbo

Emne: Re:

pauloaguia: I'd call that Fencer not realizing the caliber of the idiots he was idiot-proofing the site against

7. Januar 2009, 21:45:38

Emne: Re:

Snoopy: Oh, I see... I'd call that a bug

7. Januar 2009, 17:50:46

Emne: Re:

pauloaguia: i came in in guess mode clicked said game then clicked log in and it let me accept the game
it still should of not let me

7. Januar 2009, 17:15:30

Emne: Re:

Nothingness: I cannot see any invitation from you in the Waiting Games list...
I think in guest mode you can sell all games... I say this because I noticed in the past that the red number by the waiting games list is always much bigger than the one I can see when I'm logged in... but then again, I may be wrong.

7. Januar 2009, 17:14:57

Bwild

I cant see it...I have no rating in that game

7. Januar 2009, 17:13:16

Emne: Re:

Snoopy: You cannot accept games in guest mode... Can you?

7. Januar 2009, 16:53:27

nodnarbo

Emne: Re:

Nothingness: I created some invites to test it out, and I've had one game accepted so far and it was within the limit I set

7. Januar 2009, 16:26:52

Emne: Re:

rod03801: i tried comming in in guest mode
i could see his games and it even allowed me to accept one which ive since deleted
so there does appear to be a bug somewhere

7. Januar 2009, 16:08:48

Emne: Re:

Snoopy: Hmm.. If it is open fast espionage, I have no rating and can see a game of Nothingness' in there.

7. Januar 2009, 16:03:16

Emne: Re:

Tilpasset af Snoopy (7. Januar 2009, 16:05:58)

Nothingness: i have a low rating in that game and cannot see your games when i look at waiting games so i am assuming other low rated players cant either

7. Januar 2009, 15:37:58

Nothingness

i also checked this on guest mode and it seems that it is open to all players.

7. Januar 2009, 15:24:51

Nothingness

i am unsure if the settings have taken hold. I currently have two games posted both with settings where players with low ratings under 1700 or 1800 cannot play me. in the past players with 1100 have been able to play me. Its says anyone can play when i look at my posted game.

7. Januar 2009, 00:20:35

nodnarbo

Emne: Re: continual problems

Nothingness: when you say "it says anyone can play" I assume you mean on the invitations area under opponent where it says 'anyone'. This just means the invitation is not to a specific player, and not that your BKR limits are not in place.

does this help?

6. Januar 2009, 19:08:04

Constellation36

Emne: Re: continual problems

Nothingness: Perhaps you are forgetting to disable also the "Include unrated players".

6. Januar 2009, 19:05:16

Nothingness

Emne: continual problems

I still am unable to adjust the quailty of the ratings of the people i wish to play. for example i posted a game of open espionage but i do not with to play anyone lower than 1800 and no higher than 4000. i clicked the area where you can adjust this but when i posted the game it says anyone can play. i have been trying to figure this out for the last 2 years with no luck...

5. Januar 2009, 15:51:37

Emne: Re: Help boss.....

MadMonkey: That's why I generate the tournaments I create with a script. I won't forget that way.

5. Januar 2009, 15:14:02

MadMonkey

Emne: Re: Help boss.....

AbigailII: Really, i never bother to change it, thanks

5. Januar 2009, 15:01:59

Emne: Re: Help boss.....

MadMonkey: How about a setting in the Tournament that by default is the way it is OR that can be changed to play another game

That's already possible. What I do when I create an elimination game is to not use 'normal game' but a '1 win'. In that case, the game is replayed (with switched colours) in case of a draw.

5. Januar 2009, 14:29:27

Constellation36

Emne: Re: Help boss.....

Tuesday: Yes you have to use the largest number of rolls possible.
In that case the rolls are {1} and {5}. You can use both. So you should use both. :-)

5. Januar 2009, 14:10:39

MadMonkey