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3. Marts 2009, 16:11:47
Fencer 
Emne: Re: Fencer
Snoopy:

3. Marts 2009, 15:41:58
Snoopy 
Emne: Fencer
when you have time can you add
dice chess 10/10 to the main stairs please

3. Marts 2009, 13:04:14
Hrqls 
Emne: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.
Artful Dodger: true that these situations wont occur that often ... but neither are many people abusing it

personally i do need 1 batch of vacation days per year for sure .. to be able to go on vacation(in fact its something that i do miss a lot on dialygammon .. on there i have to make someone else play for me while i am away .. that doesnt feel right) .. but it might happen somewhere in the future that i might be glad to have the possibility to buy some more .. but thats just me

i think the vacation days system on this site is great .. and better than what most sites have ... too bad though that its abused by a few people .... i have rather this with a little abusing that none at all though

3. Marts 2009, 09:05:01
AbigailII 
Emne: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.
Artful Dodger: I know that if my ISP went down, I'd have multiple options to connect and send a message to Fencer.

If you have multiple options to connect, you might as well play.

3. Marts 2009, 08:53:51
alanback 
Emne: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.
Artful Dodger:I know that if I were hospitalized, I wouldn't be worrying about my games.!

2. Marts 2009, 23:22:25
Papa Zoom 
Emne: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.

Hrqls:  Good points and in the end, I can live and be happy with whatever the policy is.  It really doesn't negatively affect me anymore as it once did. 


I did have one thought after reading your previous posts.  If someone was having serious problems with their ISP or if they were long term hospitalized, I see no reason not to place a temporary adjounment to their games (for a limited amount of time) without the bother of having to buy more vacation time.  Seems to me these types of situations would be few and far between.  I know that if my ISP went down, I'd have multiple options to connect and send a message to Fencer.  And if hospitalized, same thing.  Plus, many people simply use their comptuters from their hospital bed.  Exceptions like the ones you bring up are good ones.  But I suspect that too often the vacation days are used as time out insurance.  And if a person uses them that way, then when they truly need them (for real emergencies), and they have none left, no one is to blame but themselves.  I suspect this would most often be the case.


2. Marts 2009, 21:18:09
Fencer 
Emne: Re: Tip of the day
alanback: Yes, that's a good idea.

2. Marts 2009, 21:02:51
alanback 
Emne: Re: Tip of the day
"GERRY":http://brainking.com/en/Advertising

2. Marts 2009, 20:55:27
Hrqls 
Emne: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.
Artful Dodger: agree .. i manage quite well with vacation days + weekends .. but there might be some events in the future where my normal amount might not be enough .. even if i wouldnt spend any vacation days at all during the rest of the year (i think i (brain rook) have 30 days per year ? thats 6 weeks .. which can easily be taken away by some of the points i named below

for normal days/years the amount of vacation days is plenty .. for those unlucky ones its possible to buy extra days

those who buy extra days even while they are not unlucky .. hmm .. let them be .. it doesnt matter to you .. the only ones it would matter to are pawns as those 'endless' games take up a game slot .. for rooks (and certainly for a block rook like you) 1 extra game in the waiting list in which its your opponents move should not make a difference

i agree though that a limit on the amount of vacation days would be nice .. but i can live and still be happy if it stays unlimited like it is right now .. why bother ? better have fun with what you do have :)

2. Marts 2009, 20:49:36
Papa Zoom 
Emne: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.
alanback:   Excellent point.  I just lost 800 US dollars becasue of a flight cancellation.  Fortunately, I can use the flights in the future (but only for up to 1 year).  Otherwise the entire amount is lost.  And the cancellation?  Due to an illness.  Life. 

2. Marts 2009, 20:45:21
Papa Zoom 
Emne: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.
Hrqls:   All good reasons.  All the more reason to use the days you have properly.  To use them as vacations and emergencies is good.   To use them to not time out on games because one has so many games, not good.  Of course I go with the rules of the site.  I just don't favor anyone getting any additional days for any reason.

2. Marts 2009, 20:38:27
"GERRY" 
Emne: Re: Tip of the day
Fencer: Yes i agree with you there because i do not see any ad's of any kind on my setting that i am on now:))))

2. Marts 2009, 20:30:58
"GERRY" 
Emne: Re: Tip of the day
Fencer: & what are the cost of them there?

2. Marts 2009, 20:29:06
"GERRY" 
Emne: Re: Tip of the day
puupia: I see what your are taking about now

2. Marts 2009, 20:13:19
alanback 
Emne: Re: Tip of the day
Fencer:Clearly the solution is to rename "tips" and call it "tips and ads" ;-)

Of course, to someone who wants the product, an ad is a tip!

2. Marts 2009, 19:53:32
"GERRY" 
Emne: Support us
Fencer is there a cost to put a ad there?

2. Marts 2009, 19:47:04
Fencer 
Emne: Re: Tip of the day
puupia: Because I see a reason to do it. Ergo, it will stay there. You have always an option to upgrade your membership level and disable all advertisements.

2. Marts 2009, 19:33:56
puupia 
Emne: Re: Tip of the day
Fencer: Why should you do something? Becouse the ad is obviously in completely wrong place. I don't see any reason to put ads into tips instead of annoying users. Why did you put that there in the first place?

2. Marts 2009, 18:51:29
"GERRY" 
Emne: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.
alanback: I agree with you 100% I myself have found peace of mind

2. Marts 2009, 18:34:16
alanback 
Emne: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.
"GERRY":Many life events interfere with our leisure activities.  If I book a vacation and there's a cancellation fee, I can't go to the travel agent and ask for a refund because my boss decided to send me on a business trip instead.  In most cases it's the same if I'm sick.  Games just aren't that important, are they?  And how do you measure the inconvenience to other players from granting extra time to the occasional unfortunate?  Sometimes, the ball just bounces the wrong way, in games and in life.  We're better off learning to deal with this reality than constantly asking for the world to take our burdens off our shoulders.

2. Marts 2009, 18:09:02
Fencer 
Emne: Re: Tip of the day
puupia: So you are outraged. Why should I do anything about it? Just calm down.

2. Marts 2009, 17:22:10
puupia 
Emne: Re: Tip of the day
Fencer: The tip of the day section has very nice hints and tips on playing games and using Brainking. When browsing through those tips no-one expects to get a "hint" that you should buy a software (almost) completely unrelated to BK. If that ad was somewhere else, like where the rest of the ads are, it would be fine. But putting ads within those tips is just outrageous.

2. Marts 2009, 12:36:10
"GERRY" 
Emne: Re: Tip of the day
puupia: I must have missed that one .But mine is on now & they are very good tip's

2. Marts 2009, 12:34:04
Fencer 
Emne: Re: Tip of the day
puupia: No. It's perfectly OK. I define what is over the top.

2. Marts 2009, 12:17:39
puupia 
Emne: Tip of the day
Isn't it a bit over the top to advertise a commercial product on the tip of the day? Ads should be put somewhere else. Tips of the day should be reserved for tips and hints about Brainking!

2. Marts 2009, 09:29:03
Hrqls 
Emne: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.
Artful Dodger: there can be many reasons, some examples
- an unexptected longer illness
- an unexpected change of jobs where internet access is more limited than your previous job
- an unscheduled long vacation
- an unexpected illness of a family member
- unexpected computer / provider problems

the policy of vacation days (or even no vacation days) is different per game site

the policy of this site is to allow vacation days .. and at the moment the policy is to allow rebuying of more vacation days

1. Marts 2009, 18:54:04
"GERRY" 
Emne: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.
Artful Dodger: As i am mine also

1. Marts 2009, 18:51:38
Mort 
Emne: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.
Artful Dodger: As I am mine.

1. Marts 2009, 18:39:47
Mort 
Emne: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.
Artful Dodger: No, that's not life. That's an opinion. In the end it'll be up to Fencer and HIS opinion on how the matter is resolved.

It's not a case of "pity", it's a case of real life.

1. Marts 2009, 17:55:20
Papa Zoom 
Emne: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.
(V):That's life Jules.  No exceptions.  No pity cases.  Part of the games are the time constraints.  If you can't meet them, you time out.  I've played over the board tournaments for years and that's a huge part of the game.  You don't get extra time because you don't feel well.  Nuf with the excuses.  You get so many vacation days a year so use them wisely.

1. Marts 2009, 16:29:16
Good Luck :)FLR 
Emne: BLACK ROOK FIRST PRIZE TOURNEY

1. Marts 2009, 13:34:10
Mort 
Emne: Re: Reminder
Artful Dodger: It's only unfair if misused Dan. There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.

28. Februar 2009, 23:49:46
Papa Zoom 
Emne: Re: Reminder
(V): No one is being punished Jules. You get X number of vacation days a year. Use them wisely. If you have problems and need more, too bad for you. Stop playing so many games. I don't feel sorry for people who time out in games when they are given enough vacation days a year. It's unfair to other players when people get more days. You get what you get and that's it.

28. Februar 2009, 23:02:51
Mort 
Emne: Re: Reminder
Artful Dodger: Sometimes there are good reasons, you cannot punish the whole because of one or two abusing the system.

28. Februar 2009, 21:58:08
joshi tm 
Emne: Re: thanks Fencer
Snoopy: It plays really ddifferent indeed! You can't go gung ho all for one and one for all, since there are three kings to eliminate.

28. Februar 2009, 21:51:06
Snoopy 
Emne: Re: thanks Fencer
joshi tm: its a very different game from normal dice chess ive found
im not sure about having 2 turns thou

28. Februar 2009, 21:32:39
joshi tm 
Emne: Re: thanks Fencer
Snoopy: Just a thought....

Have about making two turns at once in this game? But they should e done with different pieces.

28. Februar 2009, 21:24:09
Papa Zoom 
Emne: Re: Reminder
(V): Why any extra days anyway? When they are gone, they are gone. Part of the game is the time limits. I oppose any additional days.

28. Februar 2009, 18:53:45
Constellation36 
Thanks for the answer. :-)

28. Februar 2009, 18:51:55
coan.net 
Emne: Re:
Constellation36: All current running games will continue - even if you are over the limit.

If you make it into a next round of a tournament - those games will start also.

The only thing you will be kicked out of is new tournaments you might be signed up for since you will be over your game limit.

But no worries - you will be able to continue to play all current games.

28. Februar 2009, 18:50:16
Constellation36 
I have the Brain Bishop type of membership that expires today. I have also more than 20 games running. When the Brain Bishop expires in a few hours and i will transformed into a Pawn what will happen with my games?
Will they expire also in order the 20 games restrictions for Pawns to be applied?

28. Februar 2009, 14:51:31
Mort 
Emne: Re: Reminder
rod03801: I thought the talk was to limit the extra days you can get in one year, sure someone is entitled to buy as many memberships in a year as they please, but the talk as I have mentioned was a limit, maybe such as only an extra ten or fifteen days a year.

28. Februar 2009, 02:57:59
alanback 
Emne: Re: Reminder
rod03801:I don't think it's so much a matter of abuse as of thoughtlessness.  People should not be subject to criticism for following the rules of the site.  The rules can always be changed if they don't suit the majority of users.  However, deliberately delaying matches is rudeness, another term for which is unsportsmanlike behavior, and that can legitimately be criticized.

26. Februar 2009, 19:24:11
rod03801 
Emne: Re: Reminder
Charles Martel: Well, a few have had suggestions, but I haven't seen any response from Fencer about it. So, I don't know

Fortunately, it's not a wide-spread problem. (As far as people buying memberships over and over again to get a few years' worth of vacation days in one year)

26. Februar 2009, 17:35:55
"GERRY" 
Emne: Re: Reminder
rod03801: I also being a humble member the word ABUSE is that on Topic & also look towards leadership for it.

26. Februar 2009, 17:10:29
tyyy 
Emne: Re: Reminder
rod03801: But is there a solution?? We humble members look towards the leadership for it.

26. Februar 2009, 15:19:12
rod03801 
Emne: Reminder
Please remember that Hrqls has asked that talk of this specific person should not continue. Abuse of the vacation days policy and solutions in general are welcome topics.

Thank you.

26. Februar 2009, 15:06:31
Good Luck :)FLR 
Emne: Re: Vacation days
Carl:unluckily that one you are playing is someone that shouldn;t be in brainking .. sorry .. i always make sure that if he signs in any tourney i am not there and he is banned from all my tourneis
eventually he will need to move so push him to limits .. do not give him any break .. move as much as you can

26. Februar 2009, 14:23:05
Roberto Silva 
Emne: Re: Vacation days
Carl: Or maybe he's doing it so that players will get fed up and resign - that way he actually manages to win a couple of games

26. Februar 2009, 13:25:21
Carl 
Emne: Re: Vacation days
alanback: Odd indeed.As well as not being a mathematician I'm also not a psychologist.But this has got me wondering.This stalling is obviously being done on purpose so I'm thinking that perhaps there's some minute sense of power being derived from these tactics? To most of us this is a place to play games,nothing more,nothing less.But to a lesser mind, it may be all they have in life that gives them any sense of self importance.As i said i'm, no psychologist so don't really know how a human mind works and thinks.But surely this behaviour is more to be pitied than scolded.

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